"Things fall apart, the centre cannot hold" - W.B. Yeats.
"We're doomed !" - Private Frazer.
"Like scrolling through a decade's worth of Daily Mail editorials in 20 minutes" - TheLoonyFromCatford
Very well put ... or put-down, rather. It seems typical of these sort of people to moan about the consequences of their actions and beliefs and blame it on everyone else.Certainly, a great revival of British culture would do a lot towards curbing the problems you so well described, possibly because British culture, or more British values, fuse together both community spirit and national pride with the old Protestant work ethic.This, combined with the right conditions for cultural growth provided by government, has served us well in decades, centuries past, and would do so now and in years to come.
"This whole debate is like Canute's courtiers wondering what the hell's wrong with the sea."Lol! Good one!Of course, posting anything other than the expected lefty cant to CiF is doing much the same thing as Canute was, but still.....
The Guardian is a home for student polemicists after a jiob on Cherwell. Undergraduate opinions get printed and paid for without ever having to be informed with a visit to the real world.I see The Guardian as a sort of Priory Clinic.........a virtual reality world where addiction and narcissistic self-delusion can be linked by laptop into a giant therapy group.Sane people should not get sucked into their deluded rantings but look at the disaster their acting-out of fantasies has unleashed over the postwar era
Laban, has it ever occurred to you that the Guardian, the home of superannuated social workers and delayed development student hacks, isn't perhaps the place to be spreading your hard right social conservatism? I mean, I know one shouldn't preach to the choir, but that doesn't mean you have to go to the opposite extreme and preach to a bunch of deaf-mutes!
Alex - 100% disagree ! A Christian believes everyone can be brought to grace. A sinner can repent or at least become aware of his sinfulness. There is no reason why this should not apply to politics.You also have to remember I was a lefty guardianista myself for years. I know these people. They are my lost brothers and sisters.
Laban, I believe you are showing unChristian - and uncharacteristic - arrogance in assuming that a mere mortal can produce a string of Damascene conversions through words alone. Words are cheap, and even guardianistas know it deep down. Your time would be much better spent holding the inconsistent Telegraph or the cowardly Times to account. What's the point of accusing of treason those who delight that 'treason to the white race is loyalty to mankind'? (Not that either the chap quoted or many guardian writers can be rightly accused of belonging to the white race.)
Speaking of Damascene conversions, which do you think is more likely, zeka: Laban adopting the antisemitism of the site you generally hang out, or you ditching it?Laban, care to comment?
jan, menopause clowding your thoughts, dear?
Wow, that's class, zeka. Don't address the issue, go straight to the misogynistic ad hominem.
"Wow, that's class, zeka. Don't address the issue, go straight to the misogynistic ad hominem."Of course, the weapon of choice for the usual suspects when faced with comments they can't address that appear to have been written by a real, live female!!. The idiot can't even spell 'clouding' right......
I think he was taking a cue from his mentor, the unctuous and obnoxious Guessedworker, who puts on a veneer of gentlemanliness yet always has a middle school level insult to hand (which he positively delights in using).
I think he was taking a cue from his mentor, the unctuously obnoxious Guessedworker, who puts on a veneer of gentlemanliness yet always has a middle school level insult to hand (which he positively delights in using).
Tsk, tsk. Serves me right for speed-typing, eh? Won't happen again, at least provided jan learns that the phrase is:'hang out at', not just 'hang out'.Moving on from our epistalistic inadequacies, you will notice, if you look above, that I was making some suggestions to Laban that had nothing to do with Jews. Then jan, my obsessive stalker(this is the first time I've seen her here), decided to ask her funny-weird question. Bang - I was accussed out of the blue of being an anti-semite. Now, either anti-semitism is a great fault or it isn't. If it isn't, then why is jan even on the look out? If anti-semitism is a great fault, then such frivolous accusations are nothing short of a witch hunt.
"Now, either anti-semitism is a great fault or it isn't."The mind boggles that it could be considered, by anyone sane, as not a 'great fault'..."..jan, my obsessive stalker(this is the first time I've seen her here).."She can't be that obsessive then...
juliam, dear, I presume you've never heard of a Devil's (Morton's, alternatively)Fork? The original, invented by Henry vii's tax collector went: if you are rich and splashing money about then your wealth can be assessed; if you're rich and saving your money up then your savings (i.e. hordes of gold, etc in those days) can be assessed. It gets you coming and it gets you going.I used a similar device to prove that jan (who decided to trek all the way onto this blog just harass me) was being unreasonable in ascribing anti-semitism to me via purely circumstantial evidence (i.e. I blog at MR, where a number of anti-semites *comment*. Note comment, not blog, you won't find any bloggers going on about the Protocols of Zion).
'just *to* harass me' was what I meant to write.
I just found this thread - a bit late to lend a hand to Alex. But I see he doesn't really need it.The point he makes about MR is true. We cover the JQ because Jewish ethnic interests exist ... are perceived and pursued as contrary to European native ethnic interests ... are important ... and it would be dishonest and cowardly to ignore them.Further, our own people deserve to see the subject debated cooly and responsibly, and free of extremism. Why should they be hag-ridden forever by fear of generating hysteria in the likes of Juliam and jewamongyou? Why, by their defeatism, should they write a behavioural blank cheque not only to Jews but to the entire "Third World in Europe"? It is not necessary.So, we have to speak freely on the JQ, as on all things. That said, MR covers the issue with a certain lightness of touch that is far distant from the crudities with which Juliam would, one thinks, be perfectly comfortable. Hence I am, according to "anonymous", unctiously obnoxious. An original attempt to, as usual, delegitimise a defender of legitimate European rights and interests. But not a successful one to any mind freed from fear. Laban,Like Alex, I don't bother with the Guardianistas. But I understand and approve of your efforts. The fundamental here is that those nearest the sleeper must awaken him. All our people, even those benighted souls in the possession of left-liberal ideology, must eventually awaken if we are to avert the demographic and political disaster ahead of us.
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