On their release Dame Elizabeth Butler-Sloss granted an injunction guaranteeing the killers anonymity for life, and a fortune was spent on resettling them under assumed names.
James' mother hasn't given up.
From the News Of The World story.
In a long-running battle with the Home Office, distraught Denise has asked for pictures of the killers and a meeting with them.
"Jack Straw, (the then Home Secretary) the probation service, the social workers and the judges have all kept me in the dark. But the system does not really care about victims and their families," said Denise.
"They refused me point blank—so when I got the letter I decided to take action myself."
Denise hit out at the lifetime injunction that bans publication of anything that might identify the killers.
"I think it is disgusting newspapers cannot report about them now," she said. "There are families out there with young kids who are probably playing close by them and they don't know who they are."
She admitted she once wondered whether she could forgive her son's killers if she ever met them.
"Before I saw Thompson, I did think that if I ever saw his face then maybe I could in some way forgive him, but now that I have I still can't," said Denise.
"I still have the hate inside me from the day they murdered my James. There will be no closure for me. And I am only telling what I am doing now because I want people to know that I haven't given up.
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from viewing the movie Capote to then viewing the crime library website (Clutter Family) to then viewing at the crime library the James Bulger case; I write. Today is Apr 2, 2006 and if those two murderers are violating parole/probation agreements (i.e. doing heroin or shoplifting or entering Merseyside without Denise Fergus knowing)........it needs to be stopped and they need to be back behind bars. Rehab didn't work did it? This is just the beginning. Thompson has a kid and the kid's mother doesn't know the real identity. Shame on the British government and the misappropriation of British taxpayer dollars. I agree with Denise pursuing their identities and monitoring.
I write also, om 13th September 2006, I agree, these two sick murderers have not learnt anything, and us tax paying mugs that are paying for their priveledges...
Surely the one with the child, should have a right to know who the actual father is...
Denise has every right, after losing her son in such tragic circumstances, she has the right to their identities at least... the government failed her once, and her failing her yet again...
I write also, om 13th September 2006, I agree, these two sick murderers have not learnt anything, and us tax paying mugs that are paying for their priveledges...
Surely the one with the child, should have a right to know who the actual father is...
Denise has every right, after losing her son in such tragic circumstances, she has the right to their identities at least... the government failed her once, and her failing her yet again...
although I suppose everyone has moved on from this discussion, as well you should, but I feel compelled to resopond anyway.
I would like to first refute misinformed statements in the original post.
Although the murder of James Bulger was horrendous it is inaccurate to state that "batteries were shoved up his anus" This rumour originated in a very provokative chain letter and was later unfortunately reported as truth in the media. The boys had batteries and I believe they threw them at Bulger, but the fact is that they did not insert them into his anus.
Furthermore, I would like to correct the following statement "rehab didn't work did it?" there is no evidence that any of the boys have been in rehab and furthermore, although it has been variously asserted that one of the boys (Thompson I believe) entered Mercyside for hospital treatment, this (if it was true) was reported as being due to his being assaulted. I doubt they asked him when they picked him up in an ambulance, if he was allowed to enter Mercyside. Given the tone of many of his detractors, I would question if this was why he was assaulted.
Finally, Thompson has been both reported to have a child (by the tabloid the Sunday Mirror) and to be gay. How can he be both, and isn't it a little farfetched to put much stock in anything reported by a tabloid?
I would like to end by asking why no one seems to care about the circumstances in which these children (excepting Bulger) were raised? It is accurately reported that Thompon's father had a tiny "cell like room" in the back of the house, in which he would confine his children (three at a time) whether they were good or bad. This can easily be verified by reading the police reports.
Try to obtain all the information before making unilateral assertions.
Noah
I would have liked the 'Justice for James' website to remain, if only now as memorial to the little boy himself.
A Google search for 'James Bulger' brings numerous websites that describe his gruesome murder, followed by detailed profiles of the killers themselves. The Wikipedia link currently doesn't even carry the famous smiling portrait of James - only the CCTV capture.
We must remember that this little boy once had a personality [a favourite toy, meal and TV programme]and lived with his parents in a loving home.
So tragic that he trusted a stranger and paid with his life.
having all of the comments posted i have to say that hugely dissagree with 'noah'! i personally dont care about the curcumstances in which these two evil boys were raised! i know that we are not a product of our upbringing & i know that for a fact! i had an horrendous childhood i was abused sexually, physically & emotionally... the pain & distress i felt at times was unbearable, but never at any time did i ever wish to inflict my pain & suffering upon any other person! i am now a mother to 4 children & they are precious to me, i am a much better mother to my children than what my mother ever was to me! there is no excuse for what those lil b*****ds did to that baby boy whose life had barely even begun, they should be in prison for the rest of their lives, they knew that what had done was wrong & thats why they tried to cover their crime! they were evil then & they are evil still!!!!
Prison??? Who gives a flying fuck about prison? Kill them! I hope someone does it. They deserve it. Why is so much time and attention being spent wondering how to protect these two shits, when 38 people walked by James Bulger while he was being led to his death. Those boys and their stupid fucked up parents ought to be killed too. As for people who say, they shouldn't be out of jail, they could do it again WHO THE HELL CARES!!!??? They did it once isn't that enough? The poor mother, Denise. And NOAH, who cares about the specifics? So you think it was inaccurate that they shoved batteries up his anus? Who cares? Were you there? Did you see the rest of what they did to him? Lord Jesus, someone needs to kill these two sick bastards so the victims can rest.
I am disgusted at the way this poor boy was treated, i think they should be given more than 8 years because james has lost his whole life down to those evil murderers. People can not blame it on there up bringing because it' up to them as a person to know right from wrong. All i can say is Denise and Ralph keep fighting for justice!
I wish someone had done to those boys what they did to James. Someone should have tortured and killed them. I know people will say, "Well, that makes you no better than them," but I don't care. They knew what they were doing was wrong, and their upbringing, no matter how harsh, does not excuse that. Those bastards don't deserve to live, let alone be granted anonymity for the rest of their lives. The world deserves to know where these two are, and these two deserve to face the wrath of the world. They need to be publicly shamed for what they did, and if they can't live with that, then they can kill themselves for all I care (if someone else doesn't do it for them). How dare they get privileges usually reserved for the witness protection program. Why are we protecting them? They need to face the consequences of their actions, and realise what effect their actions have had on millions of people across the world. I am disgusted in them, and wish we could just be rid of them once and for all. To James, you will be forever in my heart, you gorgeous little man, and I will never forget your smiling face. xoxoxoxoxo
I hate that Jon and Robert were given new idenities and new money, and a new life, and even girlfriends who know nothing about their past, James was so young and so sweet, it is hard for me to imagine what was going through those boys' thick heads, I also think that those sick boys haven't learnt a thing from what they did, I can assure you they will be hated forever and spit at if they ever return to England or America. And, reports say that Thompson might have killed an 8 yr old girl in Austrailia (no doubt that was him, because his new identity seems to have the same cold heart as he does) All I want is Justice For James and the rest of his family. RIP sweet baby James xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxox
"they were evil then & they are evil still!!!!"
How can you presume to know what goes through their heads today? Yes, they did a horrible evil thing but does anyone stop and wonder if they themselves are haunted by their own decisions that day?
The government has to keep their identities a secret or else some nutter will go and have a murder or their own. Leave it to God to judge, its not our place.
Finally, what kind of mother leaves her child alone like that? Ms. Fergus may be an overprotective zealot now, but what nobody knows is that when Robert and Jon took James it was the third time he'd wandered off that day! The woman kept setting him down and turning her back! This isn't to say she deserved what she got, not by any means, but that she was a fool to leave a baby unattended. Multiple times.
Those boys were ten years old when this happened...I have heard them being compared to Hitler! who are all of you to say that they are "still dangerous"? Who is to say that people, ESPECIALLY young people can't change and lead decent lives? Let them live their lives. It certainly isn't fair (THAT'S AN UNDERSTATEMENT) that little James didn't have a chance at all at a life of his own, and was ripped away from his family, I'm not arguing that, and I am also not making excuses for what these boys did. But when will the hate end? I notice that all of you are looking through James' mother's view, sympathizing for her, which is the easiest view to sympathize with. But only for her and her family? Can any of you even imagine what it would be like to realize that your child, your baby, brutally murdered someone, not just someone but a two year old?? What if your child killed another? Would the situation change for you? Would your opinion change? I think absolutely.
Before I learned up on this case I was quite liberal, I once believed in what the Human Rights groups said, but when I saw the reports and found out what inhuman, horrific, completely unforgiveable things they did then I stopping believing.
Now I just can not believe that the government would allow them two to leave costidy and kept them two away from the good peoples of the country, has the government gone insane?
But the government does not do this with just them murderers but with them all, think of all the murder cases in all the years, THOUSANDS OF THEM, and all of them live in our society all the time.
It certainly asks the question: Is anyone safe, Is our government protecting the innocent public or protecting them, and if they are out in society then is'nt EVERYONE at risk (Except the murderers, of course, I do not think they have need to be scared with our law system, do they?)
Did the people in the world forgive Hitler? How about Hussein? John Wayne Gacy? Jeffrey Dahmer?
It's all about forgiveness in children, misguided, angry children. Who's to say Thompson or Venables will not join these famous, notorious suspects?
Laws need to be changed around the world- look at the 8yr old Arizona boy who is now free after killing his own father and his father's roomate!
These a*****es need to face the same fate they gave little James!
Someone has to know who they are & where they're located...
bring the justice for James, once & for all; & James' mother can finally be at peace.
This story is so traumatizing to this day...
Noah: hats off to you for relaying the truth.
whatever circumstances the two murders have grown up, however they might have changed their personalities from then to the present day: it all doesent matter as Jamie Patrick Bulger is dead and nothing brings him back - he has no second chance - dont you understand!! This innocent, defensless little baby boy has tortured and killed so very evil and has gone before his death through hell!!!!! Please someone find these two monsters and do the same to them - let them suffer bad! they do deserve not just to be murdered but being tortured like they tortured James. Please find them!!!!!!!!!!!
It doesn't surprise me at all that the justice system has let the mother of that poor little boy suffer the way she has. I for one live in "the land of the free" (that's b.s.)! I was arrested for trying to protect my children for a horrible monster (my ex husband). Locked away from them for 18 months. In no country I have ever heard of has any judge or jury given the victims family any peace of mind! REGARDLESS of anyone else opinion on the matters of child murders, rape or any other type of abuse I feel it should be left up to either the victim themselves or the victims family. One way or the other those evil sadistic murderous cads will get whats coming to them whether it be by the hand of God or someone reaches out and takes justice into their own hands and takes out the trash themselves!
If not making public their new identities, IT IS ONLY FARE that at least their partners to know that they served in prison for child-offence. Not revealing the real identities, just to know for what they served. So these partners can choose wheather to take the risk or not. The parents of James still feel the consequences of their son's terrible death. Why the murderers to be so much protected on any consequence. Of course ALL the partners in their life should know vaguely what they did and choose to leave them or to live with them.
Ref to the above comment, all child-offenders' partners should be infomed about it. This is just common sense and after all is THEIR RIGHT TO KNOW.
They were children for God's sake!!
Forgive them!!
And no, ten-year-olds don't have full responsibility of their action and they don't fully grasp the severity of taking another life! If they did they would be adults! And yes if you killed them you would be just as wrong as them.
They served their time and will live with the consequences of the murder for the rest of their lives.
Live them alone!
Ellen
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