Dayne Gilbey's an icon of common-sense, decency and good old English eccentricity compared with these two.
For a month, the two skinheads had talked off and on about "earning" a spider-web tattoo, Peterson, now 37, testified yesterday.
In their skinhead world, the tattoo meant you had killed someone of a different race, a badge of status in the white racist movement. They wanted "the web" etched on their elbows as a rite of passage.
Peterson's account of the 1989 hate-crime murder of Philadelphian Aaron Wood riveted the courtroom during yesterday's 4-hour preliminary hearing.
The story's about as pretty as the tattoo.