Tuesday, June 19, 2007

Hmm ...

"This is a mental health issue. I think our community is going stark raving bonkers and I think the children are expressing it."

Decima Francis in evidence to the Home Affairs Select Committee on Young Black People and the Criminal Justice System.

The Commission for Racial Equality has privately warned the government that its mental health bill unlawfully discriminates against ethnic minorities, correspondence leaked to the Guardian has revealed. MPs vote at the bill's report stage in the Commons today without being warned by the commission of its concern. It told Rosie Winterton, minister responsible for mental health, she was not being frank with MPs about how new powers for compulsory treatment would be used disproportionately on black people. - Guardian today.

8 comments:

Jockney said...

What happens when we get mad?


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dearieme said...

Which "community" is she referring to?

Anonymous said...

¨...its mental health bill unlawfully discriminates against ethnic minorities.¨

This is a new bill? It has just been passed? If it conflicts with previous leglislation, then the new bill takes precident.

NDK said...

It's an interesting notion, this idea that if any organisation displays any variance in it's racial mix (delivery or employment) from the wider community, then it is primae facie evidence of covert racism. There's never the slightest curiosity in exploring why minorities might not apply for certain jobs beyond racism.

Also notice how the advocates of quotas can shift the target match population. For example here Jim decides that the BBC is justified in exceeding its already met targets for national racial quotas by noting that it is a London based organisation.

alex zeka said...

It's a bizarre argument, all in all. First of all, she assumes that the bill will discriminate, before it's even been implemented. That's straight out of the Department of Prophecy, and should be filed under O for 'original'.

Secondly, there's no discussion of whether we need such a bill or not. In other words, avoiding racial discrimination is the only value admitted into consideration, and if such a bill is needed to keep the mentally unstable off the street, tough.

Just goes to show how a non-homogenous society can't really have a rational debate within itself, as everything becomes a matter of advantaging this or that ethnicity.

Laban said...

"It's an interesting notion, this idea that if any organisation displays any variance in it's racial mix (delivery or employment) from the wider community, then it is primae facie evidence of covert racism."

It only works one way, though.

No-one's going to ask (except me) why Muslims don't use abortion services a great deal, or why black players are over-represented as Premiership strikers (cos they're quicker over the first yards), or why white men are under-represented as medical students.

Anonymous said...

"or why white men are under-represented as medical students."

An interesting question this one. After all the NHS used to be an all white service, back in the days when it worked quite well. White flight?

By the way, I hear that Dr Mohammed is always very keen to give all the other Mohammeds an excuse for a disability pension if they need one. Well, they are like brothers, aren't they? And Asians like to keep it in the family...

alex zeka said...

"By the way, I hear that Dr Mohammed is always very keen to give all the other Mohammeds an excuse for a disability pension if they need one. Well, they are like brothers, aren't they? And Asians like to keep it in the family..."

Which is all an excellent demonstration of the principle that, given that we don't want racial bias influencing public decisions, the only administrators allowable in a non-homogenuous society are genetically engineered, race-less test-tube babies. And there aren't many of those around. Still, manufacturing a few of those would stimulate demand for Britain's somewhat saggy pharmaceutical industry.