Tuesday, September 28, 2010

Ed Miliband - the Verdict

R4's World at One today opened with a series of soundbites from friends and colleagues of Ed Miliband. I paraphrase :

"This illustrates the sort of person he is - in his college, one of his friends had a room where the radiators didn't work ..."
Laban, always looking for the good, waits for 'and he didn't hang around waiting for the college to fix it - he got a spanner and a key and fixed it for him. He's always been a good-natured, can-do type".

"And Ed presented this as an indictment of the college maintenance systems ... to him, everything was political"


*sigh*

13 comments:

Jim said...

Can someone do a little research and find out how much positive media coverage William Hague got when he was elected Tory leader after the 97 defeat? It may be 13 years ago and counting, but I'm sure he never got this sort of reception from the BBC.

Anonymous said...

Have any of our current "leaders"/politicos ever held down a real job/served the country in the military? or have they, as I suspect, almost all been career slimeballs who have never experienced the real world?

Moriarty said...

I don't recall what was said at the time Hague was leader, but I do remember the (Newsnight?) 'Evolution of the Tory party' thing the BBC ran when Cameron became leader. The presenters could hardly stop giggling.

Foxy Brown said...

@ Anon

Modern politicians lack what Denis Healey called "hinterland". Not only do they not have any experience of real life, they have no interests or hobbies outside the world of Westminster.

It appears to be a British disease. Bill Clinton continued to read voraciously while in office. I am also betting on Nicolas Sarkozy being some sort of art buff.

Anonymous said...

Im utterly uninterested in either of the Millipedes.

They are total non-entities in the mould of Cameron, Clegg, Obama etc. All men (and I use the term very loosely) who have risen quite without trace. Our system of democracy has been reduced to this?

Brian said...

"and he didn't hang around waiting for the college to fix it - he got a spanner and a key and fixed it for him. He's always been a good-natured, can-do type"
Tut, tut. Expecting too much of Miliband's Polish ancestry are we? :-) At least you didn't say he lent the college money to refurbish the plumbing.

An innocent reader said...

At least you didn't say he lent the college money to refurbish the plumbing.

Hmmnn...

Interesting little factoid I saw on the comments on the 'the nazis were worse than the soviets' CIf piece this morning. It seems grandad millipede, who was Polish, fought for the Soviet Red Army against the Polish Army in the brief war between the Poles and the Soviets in the 1920s.

Make of that what you will, although no doubt I am an anti something or other for having read it.

Brian said...

Given the history of anti-semitism in Poland, the Red Army would appear the preferred option to a Jew who had suffered pogroms and ghettoisation in the early years of the USSR until Stalin became progressively more anti-semitic in order to isolate Trotsky and create another internal enemy to maintain repression.
What loyalty does one owe to a country that institutionally discriminates against one?

Anonymous said...

Given the history of anti-semitism in Poland

That statement is meaningless without also seeing the behaviour of jews in Poland over generations.

It seems grandad millipede, who was Polish, fought for the Soviet Red Army against the Polish Army in the brief war between the Poles and the Soviets in the 1920s

If he was Polish then he was a traitor. If his primary loyalty was jewish and not Polish, well, that tells us all we need to know.

Brian said...

@Anonymous
You'll be aware that Poland only regained her independence (lost in 1795) with the end of WWI and the collapse of the Russian and German Empires.

Anonymous said...

Typical of the Guardian that they chose that dreadful old commie bastard and apologist Hobsbawm to make the first comment about Milipede

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/sep/28/ed-miliband-conference-speech-verdict-2

Sami bubbled

"The moving introduction about his refugee parents set the scene. They fled the Nazis "fearing the knock on the door" and "found the light of liberty" in Britain."

But it wasn't the full shilling of course

"THE family of David Miliband, the foreign secretary, was branded untrustworthy and misleading by Home Office and Foreign Office officials when it tried to migrate to Britain, documents to be released tomorrow will reveal.

The foreign secretary will find his department thought that his father and grandfather played fast and loose with the truth and lied to immigration officers.

The government papers accuse Miliband’s late grandfather, Samuel, a Polish migrant, of exaggerating the antisemitism he faced in Belgium after the second world war in order to move to Britain. A hand-written Home Office report from March 8, 1949, doubts the Milibands’ honesty, stating: “Mili-band, father and son, have so misrepresented the case in the past, I am afraid we can place no reliance on their statements.”

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article3690021.ece

Anonymous said...

So whats the implication? Milipede was in fact Russian not Polish but stranded in Poland by changing borders, therefor not Polish? Then why claim that he was Polish?

Laban said...

I can see why granddad Miliband might have thought the Red Army was his best bet, but given that he was living in Warsaw at the time his attitude wasn't exactly calculated to endear him to the average Ladislas in the ulicy.

And as a Marxist, it's a historical irony that he found himself on the wrong side of history at the Battle of Warsaw, a battle as decisive in world history as Stalingrad or Midway.

For the Red Army and for Trotsky, Poland was only the doorway to the great prize of Germany. Had the Red Army reached their border, with Germany still in post-war ferment, European history would have been very different - but perhaps not much more peaceful.