" a determined Islamic attack"
"That is the type of evangelism they are doing: mass-production, so if you have four wives, four children, sixteen children, very soon you will be a village"
"surrounded by Islamic domination"
Who is this spittle-flecked, swivel-eyed chap ? Quite obviously one of those embittered types who's not cool with diversity and thinks that (parental advisory - the writer thinks that swearing is grown-up) "a significant portion of the babies being born are, apparently, the wrong sort of babies – babies from ethnic minorities, babies with immigrant parents and lone parents, black babies, poor babies".
Archbishop Nicholas Okoh, 56, was elected Primate of Nigeria last week.
Like his predecessor, the great Peter Akinola, the Archbishop seems to have the CoE hierarchy pretty well taped.
“Who is the leader in the Christian world? There is no leader”That's you, Rasputin, that is.
While we're on the subject of the Church of England, here's another canary in the coalmine.
Lewis Bullock, an IT and business consultant in Dubai, was only 14 years old when he took the bold step of changing his faith from Christianity to Islam while growing up in the UK.Obviously another one driven away by "the wishy-washy standards of contemporary Christianity".
"I only had brief knowledge of Islam from our world religions class; in fact, we had the image that it's a religion for Indians and Pakistanis," Bullock said, who comes from a religious Christian background with his father and grandfather (a priest) belonging to the Church of England.
"I have developed a new lifestyle different to the accustomed one in the UK and I tried to make my family understand this change by pointing to the irregularities in the lifestyle and high divorce rates as compared to arranged marriages," he said, adding that his marriage to an Arab UAE national has helped to strengthen his faith in Islam.He's right of course. In fact, I've noticed recently a new trend on left blogs in the comments. When hideous righties talk about defending Western culture, the response is "what culture ? Binge drinking, high crime, family breakup ?" - all things which the left have been in the forefront of promoting - and things which once only hideous righties used to complain about.
Obviously no problems with the Bullocks' family life.
Bullock is a fluent Arabic speaker of the colloquial Emirati accent and enjoys his career and family life with his wife and five boys.
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When hideous righties talk about defending Western culture, the response is "what culture ? Binge drinking, high crime, family breakup ?" - all things which the left have been in the forefront of promoting - and things which once only hideous righties used to complain about.
It seems only five minutes ago that the left were all for burning down McDonalds and the like, crass, shallow materialistic, global Americanised culture. But when push comes to shove they suddenly find themselves defending it to the hilt.
And who helped create that vaccuous deracinated culture anyway?
I think Michael Moore had a rant about this a few years ago. How great the chainstores were compared to the hateful local businesses. Evil white shopkeepers who lived in the communities they worked in. Ugh, the very idea!
Binge drinking, high crime, family breakup ?" - all things which the left have been in the forefront of promoting - and things which once only hideous righties used to complain about.
I'm not sure that's so simple. From a historical perspective the left promoted the respectable working classes and attacked the evils specified. We've just seen a brief interregnum where they chose to be non-judgemental. No lefty would admit to promoting this behaviour. If anything they would blame them on the evils of Capitalism or more specifically advertising and cheap booze.
Don't see how lefties promote binge drinking, to be honest.
Simple rule of thumb: something is most likely to be promoted by those who'd make money from it.
“Who is the leader in the Christian world? There is no leader”
I'll give you a clue. He wears white and he's got a German accent.
Don't see how lefties promote binge drinking, to be honest.
Extracted from Moynihan's "Defining
Deviancy Down":
http://www2.sunysuffolk.edu/formans/DefiningDeviancy.htm
(...)
Professor Fred Siegel
of Cooper Union observes: "In the great wave of moral deregulation that began in the mid-1960s, the poor and the insane were freed from the fetters of in middle-class u mores." They might henseforth sleep in doorways
as often as they chose. The problem of the homeless appeared, characteristically defined as persons who lacked "affordable housing."
(...)
"The great wave of moral deregulation that began in the mid-1960's" is universally accepted as a leftist project.
And here's some blogger providing rudimentary commentary on one of Theodore Dalrymple's books:
http://sinclairsmusings.blogspot.com/2007/04/our-culture-whats-left-of-it-by.html
(...)
He asks the question of what has gone wrong to create the breakdown in so many families. His answer is that there has been a massive cultural decline in social standards as morality was written off, intellectually, as judgemental. This intellectual position rose to dominance and became accepted throughout society since the sixties. The physical and emotional cost of this decline has been felt most by the poor. Without a culture of self-reliance, hard work and committed families they fall into dreadful lifestyles. The welfare state prevents financial ruin but this may decrease the likelihood of people tackling the root of their problems.
(...)
I still don't see it. Many lefties tend to be somewhat puritan when it comes to alcohol.
Warnings over alcohol (and cigarettes) are seen by many in Britain to be examples of a left-liberal nanny state at work.
Professor Siegel's opinion does not amount to evidence on the subject. (His argument on the insane is silly, since insane people, by definition, cannot be expected to take much notice of prevailing moral standards.)
Yes, there is a left-liberal viewpoint that everything will be okay if we all try and live like Keith Richards.
But binge drinking is first and foremost the result of cheap alcohol prices in supermarkets, the manufacture and promotion of sweet-tasting alcopops to underage drinkers, and tactics used by pub companies to get people to drink faster, such as loud music to suppress easy conversation.
An earlier example of price and availability determining consumption:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gin_Craze
Apparently the above two jokers are the unaware of the general collapse of standards that started with the Sixties Cultural Revolution starting in 1965.
P.S, No one is blaming the mentally ill, that should be obvious.
Anon
I would ask that you fill in a name even if only Anon1.
Laban specified three things:
1. Binge drinking,
2. high crime,
3. family breakup
I think you would not dispute 3, so let's park it.
From the POV of 1 there are two factors. First the market effects of cheaper supply and second the social disapproval of ones social peers having a limiting effect.
It's clear that a reduction in price will increase consumption (all else being equal) but Britain as a country has far higher alcohol costs than many others. Until recently the cost of wine and beer in Europe was vastly cheaper than here but binge drinking was and remains a fringe event. Clearly it's simplistic to blame cost alone or even to mark it as the principal factor.
However what I find depressing about that response is that invariably it is accompanied by demands for higher taxes, and for more government controls. It seems that the modern left regards drunkards as little better than children who just need nanny state to look after them without actually making any demand for them to modify their behaviour. The left has a fear that people can't cope with freedom - that no solution is possible except more government and more control.
As for crime, let me remind you that the left in the 1960s followed the Frankfurt School and Post Modernism and regarded crime as a legitimate protest against capitalism.
Don't see how lefties promote binge drinking, to be honest.
Its not the binge drinking left/libs promoted. The attack from them is on the societal restraints that helped to stop such behaviour. Into the vacuum come the capitalist locusts to take advantage.
Many our current problems seem to be a deadly alliance between left/libs and amoral capitalists. They work together while pretending to be anathema to each other.
But Professor Siegel appears to suggest that it is a deficiency in morals in the insane which leads them to sleeping in doorways.
Most immoral people are motivated by greed, vanity, or power. It is not obvious how bedding down for the night in the entrance to Dixons helps satisfy any of those cravings.
"Many our current problems seem to be a deadly alliance between left/libs and amoral capitalists. They work together while pretending to be anathema to each other."
Not really aware of much evidence they really do work together, as in they communicate with one another to plan things for mutual benefit. It just looks that way.
A few individuals do combine both roles though, such as porn barons like David Sullivan, probably some people in the music industry.
"It seems that the modern left regards drunkards as little better than children"
Unfortunately, thanks in the part to the promotion of fizzy, sweet-tasting alcopops by drinks companies, quite a lot of drunkards *are* children.
Anon asinine person commented:
Unfortunately, thanks in the part to the promotion of fizzy, sweet-tasting alcopops by drinks companies, quite a lot of drunkards *are* children.
Unfortunately such moral panics rarely turn out to be based upon truth.
In response to a complaint from the Center for Science in the Public Interest (CSPI), the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) conducted an extensive investigation in 2001. The agency "found no evidence of intent to target minors with the FMB products, packaging, or advertising. Furthermore, after reviewing the consumer survey evidence submitted by CSPI in support of the proposition that FMBs were predominantly popular with minors, the FTC concluded that flaws in the survey's methodology limited the ability to draw conclusions from the survey data." [5]
The Federal Trade Commission again in 2003 investigated FMB ads, product placement, and internal company marketing documents after a directive from the conferees of the House and Senate Appropriations Committees. "The Commission’s investigation found no evidence of targeting underage consumers in the marketing of FMBs. Adults 21 to 29 appear to be the intended target of FMB marketing"[6] and found that "the majority of FMB drinkers are over the age of 27."[7]
Stats for the UK demonstrate similar results.
No doubt you'll be able to get some anecdotal report from the Daily Fail or the Grauniad. Please post
Asinine eh.
An alternative view from the US:
"On a per capita basis, underage youth were exposed to 63% more alcopops magazine advertising than legal-age adults in 2001 due to the fact that more alcopops ads ran in youth-oriented magazines than magazines with primarily an adult readership, and this grew to 72% in 2002, and finally to 92% in 2003."
http://www.youthbingedrinking.org/facts/p_alcopops.php
Adverts usually find their way to particular demographic targets by design, not accident.
Not so good lately in Australia either:
'Alcopops linked to rise in girl deaths' - 2008 article in Sydney Morning Herald. http://tinyurl.com/kptdx8
Plenty of other reasons though for the rise of underage binge-drinking: irresponsible parents, availability of cheap booze of the White Lightning variety, more youths remaining at home rather than having to put aside money for rent and bills of their own, unscrupulous shopkeepers willing to sell to underage drinkers.
On the last point, it's remarkable how the number of outlets for booze has grown in the form of licensed corner shops.
unscrupulous shopkeepers willing to sell to underage drinkers.
Clearly thats not Morrisons you are talking about.
I wonder if perhaps there is a survey somewhere showing the demographic breakown of local shopkeepers, the kind who sell drink.
It could all turn very Darwinian - shopkeepers from one or more ethnic groups selling drink to the underaged of another ethnic group. A double hit they make money and undermine a rival group. Win win.
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