Monday, August 10, 2009

Birmingham - a few afterthoughts

What appears to have happened in Brum on Saturday seems to fit a pattern that's been apparent since the Oldham, Burnley and Bradford riots.

a) "the provocation". This may be real, as in Oldham, where unpleasant Stoke City supporters abused and (probably) assaulted people on their way to Boundary Park, or imaginary, as in the non-existent "BNP rally" which was the ostensible reason for the 'big' Bradford riot (the earlier Bradford riot had a real trigger). In the case of the Brum trouble the provocation seems to have been a bunch of white guys leaping about and giving it the "come on then" from the far side of a pretty large police cordon. Eventually the police chased them off. Why they didn't quickly surround and arrest the two or three chief offenders I don't know - given the circumstances, "conduct likely to cause a breach of the peace" would seem a reasonable charge. But the chasing off only started once missiles were coming over the cordon.

"me and twos move down new street, as some possible skin heads, possibly just drunk guys come up mouthing off, the protesting mob goes crazy and starts throwing missiles so shoppers scatter while the police chase them down the street then turn on the rest of us taking cover in the alley, while one guy is struck on the head with a brick"

b) the response. Mostly if not always disproportionate to the ostensible provocation. Where the police still control the streets, takes the form of random, opportunistic attacks on whites, with at the most a bit of robbery 'on the side'. Where control is compromised, arson and looting are also prominent.

c) the reporting. Without actually stating so, the reporting will give the impression that injured victims were casualties of 'clashes' or 'fighting' - with the implication that it's six of one and half a dozen of the other. In fact, many if not the majority of casualties are victims of racist gang attacks - for what else can you call half a dozen onto one ?

Let's look at the Mail and Telegraph coverage of Brum - not exactly the left-wing press :

35 arrests in Birmingham after rival protesters clash


But apart from one chap with a Union Flag getting attacked, having it torn from him and burned, rival protesters didn't clash - and a good thing too.

Mass brawl between right-wing group and anti-fascists as race riots spill onto streets of Birmingham

Down on his knees as his attackers' feet fly in, this man's face was left a bloodied mess. It was just one of the sickening scenes photographed when a riot erupted in a city centre after Right-wing protesters clashed with anti-fascist demonstrators.

But there wasn't a mass brawl, and the guy in the green shirt just happened to be in the wrong place with the wrong skin colour (and the guy with the Union Flag who was attacked is shown in another photograph, minus flag, speaking to police. Caption : "Trouble brewing: A man appears to argue with police officers").


If this is the narrative the Mail and Telegraph are handing out, don't look for much from the BBC and Guardian. If the green shirt guy had been Asian being attacked by whites, the "English Defence League" would now be proscribed by law and the victim would be on the news 24/7.

11 comments:

JuliaM said...

"In fact, many if not the majority of casualties are victims of racist gang attacks - for what else can you call half a dozen onto one ?"

In the UK today? Why, it's become so common, it's a wonder it isn't referred to as 'fair odds'...

O/T, but it looks like you may have to drag out your 'torture in the community' tag once again...

fellist said...

the guy in the green shirt just happened to be in the wrong place with the wrong skin colour...

Nope. It wasn't the guy in the green shirt who was the wrong colour in the wrong place.... and therein lies the problem.

Anonymous said...

What fellist said...

The guy in the green shirt was at home, where he was assaulted by alien invaders imposed on him.

Anonymous said...

I dislike admitting I am now thinking like this and am uncomfortable writing it but I think it has to be said that Fellest has a point in other countries there would have been a breakdown of civil order following this as the indigenous majority turned on the aggressive minority. Look at the Cronulla riots in Sydney where a few Lebanese immigrants beat up a Surf Lifesaver. Thousands of young Aussies poured into Cronulla looking to “bash a Leb”.

Perhaps I have answered my own point in that many British cities are now dominated by persons from a non British background. This will only accelerate white flight and the end result will not be a pretty picture.

I cannot help but to draw a comparison between the more dignified way the crowd at the Luton Soldiers demo behaved (to far more provocation) and the reaction of these idiots in Brum.

Anonymous the 1st said...

"in other countries there would have been a breakdown of civil order following this"

Yes, but that is what happened in the 70s here in the UK. But the government weren't just going to stand by and let it happen (hardly surprising as they were the one responsible for letting the immigrants in in the first place). Then it became a question of government + immigrants vs whites. It has stayed that way ever since.

Unfortunately behind the dam built by the government to keep the whites driving the immigrants out, enormous pressures are building up.

I don't think that many people, seeing the pictures of the Brum riots would have thought anything other than "these are pictures of non-whites violently attacking white people". Even if you don't like the EDL there is no question that they have attacked anybody - they were simply exercising their right to free speech and freedom of expression. These non-whites were trying to supress that by violent means, and therefore demonstrating that quite clearly they don't belong here. The truth is boiling up and the dam will soon burst.

Anonymous said...

These non-whites were trying to supress that by violent means, and therefore demonstrating that quite clearly they don't belong here. The truth is boiling up and the dam will soon burst.

The most humane way out of the situation is, or would have been anyway, to stop the immigration and see to what extent it could be reversed.

That appaerently makes one a nazi. The more one realises the problem, the more one finds oneself siding with those on the right. The left simply will not listen. I think Ive heard and read every half-baked twist and denial of reality thats possible on this issue from them in the last few years. The letter in Laban's latest post shows a glimmering of understanding but the writer is still addled with liberal fairy stories about 'outsiders' causing trouble and Birmingham's otherwise utopian race relations.

Clearly the problem is not going to be fixed in time and things will have to get very nasty. Maybe thats what the left wanted all along? But why? What do they honestly think is going to happen - the one guaranteed outcome is not the happy multiracial one.

A racially balkanised UK, a Muslim theocracy, white people finally wake up and throw out the invaders,anyone think of any other outcomes? The happy-clappy liberal/UAF one isnt on the list, obviously.

Homophobic Horse said...

The UAF is not a spontaneous movement, it is a state sponsored low level terorrist organisation, it will later become like the KLA, i.e. endorsed by the Western establishment, secret service agents will propagandize on its behalf in the media, they will be armed with Iranian weapons, and given free reign on murdering "political opponents".

Anonymous said...

HH - I fear you are on the right lines there. But its still ultimately a Titanic deck chair rearrangment scenario.

Eventually the crap will hit the fan, no matter how the powers that be try to manage the situation. Demonising whites, beatifying non-whites (just watch any episode of Casualty to see what the elites would like us to think). In the end that will only dely the crunch.

Anonymous said...

When the time comes the UAF should be seen as the traitors they are and dealt with accordingly.

Laban said...

I think you'd find a job to convict under present criminal law, even conspiracy. Conspiracy to tell lies about your opponents is practiced by all political parties.

Anyway, if the solids hit the ventilator, they won't be here. They'll all have legged it to the Great Satan across the pond.

Anonymous said...

By the time our solids hit the fan they will be impacting over the water too!

When we were betraying Rhodesia, that was straight forward enough, but at least whites had other countries to run too.

Then we betrayed white South Africa, at least whites there could still escape.

Now the whole of the west will fall together. There wont be anywhere to run to.

I know youve mentioned the hideous whiteness of Scotland but how long can that last against a militant multiracial state to the south?