Friday, January 16, 2009

Dumb Britain Part 3,492 - Diversity Edition

"The pastor of Zion Baptist Church has expressed his disappointment after vandals daubed anti-semitic graffiti on the church wall."


(h-t Harry)

12 comments:

Rob said...

Disappointed? Let's look into the crystal ball at ten years hence:

"The pastor of Zion baptist church was disappointed at having his head cut off, as Muslims expressed their anger at the Israeli counterstrike against Iran following the destruction of Tel Aviv by an Iran nuclear missile".

Ten years? Make it five.

Anonymous said...

Get a new crystal ball, cos you've been sold a dud.

Iran is not going to nuke Israel.

Thud said...

Anon...True...Israel has a first strike capability that should see Iran under glow in the dark glass in no time...if we are lucky.

Anonymous said...

Why take sides?

It should have nothing to do with us.

Anonymous said...

It has something to do with us.

At the merest pretext, we are all targets of islamic violence too. Whether we are drinking coffee in Starbucks, travelling to work on a tube train, or going to a church that they say "should be a mosque by now".

There was a Catholic congregation in Indonesia, who thought "it" had nothing to do with them. Until they found one of their children with a gaping knife wound across her neck, and two of her classmates decapitated.

Monty

Furry Conservative said...

"Iran is not going to nuke Israel."

Er...despite the constant public announcements by their leadership that they will wipe it from the face of the Earth?

Wishful thinking on your part, anon, or do you have some magic information?

Anonymous said...

At the merest pretext, we are all targets of islamic violence too

Not once we've deported the lot of them. Its the most humane solution. We'll get round to it sooner or later.

North Northwester said...

Have you seen the story it comes from?

Headline:

"Muslim anger over anti-war graffiti"

Eh?

Ah:

"The incident has been condemned by several high-profile figures in the Muslim community.

Mohammed Shafiq, the chief executive of the Rochdale-based Ramadhan Foundation, said: "I am appalled at the attack. Islam totally forbids this sort of evil and we offer our support to our Christian friends."

So glad he's appalled, and if he means to do something about it, and put pressure on his neighbours to speak out against anti-Semitism and violence then good on Mister Shafiq.


However, has he read this?...

Sura (5:51) - "O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people."

...and this...

Sura (3:118) - "O you who believe! do not take for intimate friends from among others than your own people, they do not fall short of inflicting loss upon you; they love what distresses you; vehement hatred has already appeared from out of their mouths, and what their breasts conceal is greater still; indeed, We have made the communications clear to you, if you will understand."

...and this?..

Sura (9:23) - "O ye who believe! Choose not your fathers nor your brethren for friends if they take pleasure in disbelief rather than faith. Whoso of you taketh them for friends, such are wrong-doers"

Got to go against a lot of Islamic teaching to live at peace in Rochdale.

Ghulam Rasul Shahzad says he intends to raise the issue at the next meeting of the Ruet-i-Hilal committee, an association of all Rochdale Mosques.

Perhaps he'd like to say he's not bang alongside this from the Koran...?

SHAKIR: And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!

Mr Shazad said: "At this critical time when feelings are very high, we should maintain unity among our communities whatever the circumstances or situation in Gaza is."

I hope he means it and in that case I hope he's successful. He's going to have to take a look at what's being preached in local mosques and discussed and publicised in Islamic bookshops and on the net, too.

I feel sorry for our Moslem neighbours when they want to do right; they’re up against their own scriptures and 1300 years of God-mandated antagonism to the non-Moslem world.

So is this article an exercise in dhimmitude and denial, or a sigh of hope for relations between Moslems and the rest of us?

I just don't know - and it really, really matters.

Anonymous said...

"Er...despite the constant public announcements by their leadership that they will wipe it from the face of the Earth?"

The usual Middle Eastern 'mother of all battles' style of gobshite talk that plays well down the souk.

Iran's leadership know full well that a nuclear attack on Israel would lead to immediate obliteration in response, either from nuclear-armed Israel itself or from the USA.

Iran's primary foreign policy aim is to become the regional hegemon.

This doesn't mean nuking other countries or invading them. (When did Iran last pre-emptively invade another country?)

It means being in a position where if the Syrian or Egyptian or Israeli political leadership decide to embark on some course of action, their first question will be: "How will Iran respond?"

Nuking Israel does not come into that.

Anonymous said...

"It has something to do with us.

At the merest pretext, we are all targets of islamic violence too."

Since when has Iran sponsored al-Qaeda?

Anonymous said...

"Not once we've deported the lot of them. Its the most humane solution. We'll get round to it sooner or later."

Not a realistic scenario.

Better to concentrate on achievable goals. Campaign to end mass immigration, and abolish the welfare state incentives which reward high fertility rates.

Anonymous said...

"Not once we've deported the lot of them. Its the most humane solution. We'll get round to it sooner or later."

Not a realistic scenario.


Not now, later. Your solution, a conservative one would work. But it wont happen, because of the usual accusations of racism. If we enacted yours now, great, but we wont. My one certainly wont right now either, they-were-born-here etc etc.

Things will continue to worsen until at some point down the line things are so bad that violent unpleasant solutions will be sought. Still, thats what the liberals and globalizers want I suppose. Then my solution will start to look like the humane one.

By then there will be few avowed liberals left. Im sure we will be wondering just who got us into this mess, but hey presto they will have ceased to be!