Take Raoul Moat for example - an ordinary bouncer from Gateshead who inadvertantly 'got caught up in crime' and assaulted someone.
Some idiot magistrate who probably read in the Mail that 'prison works' sent him down - and what happened ? He comes straight out and murders someone !
Armed officers are seeking Moat, 38, who is believed to have fired on the young victim, named locally as Samantha Stobbart, through the living room window. A man believed to be in his late 20s or early 30s was also shot dead outside the property in Birtley, Gateshead. He has not yet been named by police. Miss Stobbart, 22, who has a young daughter named Chanel, is thought to have been shot in the stomach and is now in a critical condition in hospital. Moat has previously worked as a nightclub doorman and was released from jail on Thursday after serving time for assault.
So our criminal justice system turns a man into a murderer with one short sentence ! Nobody gets a long sentence for a little thing like assault nowadays, do they ?
As Rob Allen of the Centre For Crime But No Justice Studies puts it :
His recognition in today's speech at King's College London that there are more people in prison than necessary is as welcome as it is overdue. His description of prison as often costly and ineffectual marks a return to late 1980s Conservative policy under Douglas Hurd, which saw that far from working, "imprisonment can often be an expensive way of making bad people worse."
UPDATE - that short sentence has done even more damage than we thought.
Police said the uniformed motor patrol officer was carrying out a "static patrol" on a roundabout joining the A1 and A69 when he was attacked. He suffered a gun shot wound and was taken to Newcastle General Hospital.I suppose it's no surprise that Rob Allen is on board. I've just taken a look at Ian Duncan-Smith's Centre for Social Justice site. Who's on the Working Groups ?
Aslyum - Bob Holman, the holy fool of Easterhouse. Did they really ever send asylum seekers there ? That is what I call cruelty. And an asylum seeker, of course.
Courts and Sentencing - well, there's the chair of the Prisoners Education Trust, anti-prison activist Enver Solomon, deputy dawg at the anti-prison 'charity' based at King's College London. And who's this 'advisor' - no less than Rob Allen, director of same 'charity' !
Social Cohesion don't look too promising, either, given the presence of a Peace Studies lecturer whose book has 'a foreword by Jon Snow'.
Economic dependency looks a bit 50-50, Early Years seems full of pointy-heads .. only the Police Reform working group looks sound - Ray Mallon, Norman Dennis, David Green, Ken Pease (possibly the only non-Guardianista criminologist in existence). Even they have Steve Green, former head of Notts Police and the guy who in August 2005 issued his force with green ribbons "to show solidarity with the Muslim community after a series of racist attacks".
Prison reform - uber-liberal Rod "The Master" Morgan and James Monahan, the double murderer who writes for the Guardian - the CJS give him his pen-name. He also features (with Rob Allen again and some NACRO guy) in the Youth Justice area.
What we're seeing in Ken Clarke's "Back To The 80's" initiative is a toxic synergy between the desire of the Tories to cut government spending and the desire of the liberal establishment to bang no man up except racists and smokers. They pretend that a few more social workers and probation officer chats will cut crime and he pretends to believe them.
This is cost centre management at its very worst. Ken will save on the headline costs while passing on even more of the cost of crime, financial, social, moral, psychological, to individuals, families and communities.
Looks like the Cameroon honeymoon is the shortest on record.
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Outstanding post!
They pretend that a few more social workers and probation officer chats will cut crime and he pretends to believe them.
Fatboy Ken might be pretending but they are not, at some level they are believers. No matter how much contact they have with real crims, their real beliefs about crims are derived from liberal fiction. The (literally) magic negro in The Green Mile or those poor misunderstood boys in Scum.
I think this 'worldview derived from fiction' is common amongst liberalistas. Im struck how often arguments about the real world end up invoking movies. eg Immigration is vital, havent you seen Children of Men you racist?! (Im not making that one up, Ive had that film invoked in that very manner).
Excellent. Having a dear friend as a retired social worker your summary is perfect. They just don't know the harm they do because all common sense appears to be trained out of them.
The origin of the thinking is evolutionary.
Males, traditionally defended the tribe by killing their rival tribesmen, and sometimes stealing their women.
Females on the other hand had to 'accommodate' new men in their lives after the old ones got knocked on the head.
This liberal "be nice to the most dangerous men in society", is simply that accommodation coming out in modern times.
And before people say a lot of the social workers are men, well just how manly are they?
Also, there is the case of some men knowing what is going on but doing it to intentionally try to wreck the country.
'What we're seeing in Ken Clarke's "Back To The 80's" initiative is a toxic synergy between the desire of the Tories to cut government spending and the desire of the liberal establishment to bang no man up except racists and smokers.'
Spot on- the guardianistas are lapping up the cuts being targeted at the Justice Ministry because cuddly Ken has drenched them in touchy- feely 'prison doesn't work' squid ink. What a performer !
There is also something not quite right about the Raoul Mote story as told to date- he was banged up for assault, but served his time in ultra high security Durham gaol ? Hmm...
Females on the other hand had to 'accommodate' new men in their lives after the old ones got knocked on the head.
This liberal "be nice to the most dangerous men in society", is simply that accommodation coming out in modern times.
KInd of a matriarchy.
There is a theory that liberal society is a matriarchy. No matriarchy has endured historically. Men will eventually overthrow it. Either men from within will grow a pair and take over. Or men from outside eg Muslims will take over, displacing the men & women of our matriarchy.
"Kelly added that Moat’s status on Facebook said last night: “Just got out of jail, I’ve lost everything, my business, my property and to top it all off my lass of six years has gone off with someone else. I’m not 21 and I can’t rebuild my life. Watch and see what happens.” "
She's 22, so he's been with her since she was 16. This is not the kind of relationship you leave just like that either and after 6 years, she should have known better than to troll her lord and master this way. What went through the head of the guy who touched the girl is also not clear :(
No late release would have avoided that one, and I have to ask: how can you stop stupid people from doing stupid things that have stupid results? You cannot legislate for common sense or sanity. The stupid will always be with us.
This one was long in the coming, in the west we also do honour killings, and this is one of our classic versions.
Mark - its much like the toxic synergy the tories unleashed with their education reforms. National curriculum, the three Rs etc.
But who was in charge of actual implementation?
The massed ranks of the Guardian Light Infantry Brigade - educationalists, bureaucrats, teachers (and their unions). Here we are down 20 years down the line with an even more dumbed down, PC mess of a system than before.
I heard just this week that we now have, or will be having, A* graded 'A' levels. I knew GCSEs were dead when the A* grade appeared, but 'A' levels carried on relitively unscathed - no more.
Anyhow Melanie P wrote all about it in her book. (Note to self: must re-read that)
"who has a young daughter named Chanel.."
What a deal of ruin in one small detail.
One of the most strident critics of Clarke was Jack Straw.
Labour is the party that claims the represent the working class. It ought to see that the principle victims of petty crime are its constituents. Logically it ought to demand measures that give relief to those people. I briefly entertained the idea that Jack Straw represented a change of heart by Labour but then I remembered that it is at least as much the party of the middle class do-gooder as the Liberals.
'One of the most strident critics of Clarke was Jack Straw'.
TDK- some disgruntled Tories are now putting their heads above the parapet and criticising Ken Clarke, with David Davis leading the charge.
Mark said: "There is also something not quite right about the Raoul Mote story as told to date- he was banged up for assault, but served his time in ultra high security Durham gaol ?"
Locally he is well known as a nutter and a steroid freak. Everybody is frightened of his sudden outbursts of violence. He has been arrested numerous times but victims and witnesses have been reluctant to pursue matters. It is reported that his only jail time was for the assault of his 9 year daughter but only after teachers spotted a huge bruise on her back and reported it. I am just waiting now for the tributes to a great father and loving son. Even monsters must have mothers.
"I am just waiting now for the tributes to a great father and loving son. "
They got to catch him first. All last night, ACPO teat-suckers were wheeled in front of the TV cameras to pronounce that 'the net was closing in'.
It seems their net had more holes in it than is usual...
Interesting to note how useless our ever more paramilitary police are at dealing with this sort of thing.
An uncharitable soul might be tempted to think that they were more concerned with intimidating the general populace than catching armed nutters.
Anarch-tyranny anyone?
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