Friday, November 20, 2009

Left Voices Outrage At Betrayal of Working Class

Working class white boys are officially the worst-performing group in English primary schools, official figures show. Fewer than half of white British boys from the poorest homes started secondary education with a decent grounding in the basics last summer, it was disclosed. Only 48 per cent of 11-year-olds eligible for free school lunches reached the standard expected of their age group in English and maths. Figures published by the Government on Thursday show they fell further behind their classmates over the last 12 months. The disclosure comes amid fears that thousands of white British boys from deprived areas risk being turned into an educational “underclass” as they fall further behind their classmates. They are already less likely to get good GCSEs, go to university and get a good job than most other pupils.

Almost 600,000 children took Sats in English and maths this summer. Figures published by the Department for Children, Schools and Families on Thursday represent an official breakdown of results by ethnicity, gender and deprivation. White British boys on free meals were the lowest achieving group behind Gypsy, Roma and traveller pupils, although they account for fewer than 700 children. Nationally, some 71.8 per cent of pupils reached level 4 – the standard expected of their age – in the two subjects. It meant working-class white British boys were 23.8 percentage points behind. The gap has grown since last year when it stood at 23.1 percentage points.

There are 31,237 white British boys that are eligible for free meals – the Government’s standards measure of poverty. Among white British boys who are not eligible for free lunches, 74.2 per cent reached level 4. Some 51.6 per cent of poor black boys hit the target, along with 54.7 per cent of poor boys from a Pakistani background and 54.2 per cent of boys with a mixed heritage. Boys and girls from Chinese backgrounds were the highest performers, with 81.8 per cent of pupils hitting official targets in English and maths.


Naturally the left bloggers are in uproar about these figures.

Socialist Unity

* tumbleweed blows across road *

Liberal Conspiracy

* you wait. Time passes. Thorin sits down and starts singing about gold.*

Bloggers4Labour

* a bus passes the Radcliffe Road end *


Hmmm. Must be 'mission accomplished'.


(the only coverage I can see is at Conservative Home, FWTW.)

27 comments:

Matthew said...

Ah, the Telegraph. The 'working class' = 'free school meals'.

Working Class Geezer said...

The BBC story on this stated "...There are almost 200,000 white British boys..." ( Poor white boys do worst in tests)

Assume an equal number of girls, and take the 600,000 total figure from the Telegraph story, which gives:
600,000 - (200,000 + 200,000) = 200,000 (33.3%) are non-white immigrants of one description or another.

Also assume some of the 'whites' are not English, perhaps Polish, Irish, Greek, French, German etc. and you might be getting on to the figure of only 60% of school children in England are actually English.

Who knows in another ten years it might be less than 50%, then will you be able to call English schools English any more?

Or have I got my math from these two news stories wrong...

PS Why does the BBC continue to use the rather strange term 'white British' for English, and when did it seep in.

Anonymous said...

Laban,
have a look at this recent email 'exchange' between me and my MP. Need I say more?


Dear Mr Brown,

Tower Hamlets had a higher increase in young people going onto further and higher education than any local authority in the country over the last 10 years,

Best Wishes, Jim

From: Richard Brown [mailto:negativeepip@hotmail.co.uk]
Sent: 29 June 2009 12:50
To: FITZPATRICK, Jim (MP)
Subject:

Mr Fitzpatrick,

a few weeks ago I came across a report by Edward Leigh MP about the university participation rates of working-class youngsters. (I think it was in the Telegraph which illustrated the article with a photograph of a young white kid with a can of beer in his hand!)

This is what Mr Leigh had to say: "A lot of money, £392 million over five years up to 2007-08, was allocated to the universities to increase the proportion of working class youngsters who go on to university courses. It is dismaying that government seems to have little idea what the universities have been doing with this money. Certainly, progress has been poor. The rate at which working class young people participate in higher education has increased by only two percentage points.'.
I think we can do better. As a local MP you will be very familiar with Tower Hamlets College in Poplar High street. I have some figures on THC students from Tower Hamlets Council. Amazingly, they state that 11% of THC's students are white. I have passed THC a thousand times and I have never seen more than a handful of white students.

I think we can improve on this. Perhaps the government can allocate some money which would be specifically targeted at raising the number of white students attending local FEs.

If all the whites pupils in Tower Hamlets, and their parents, were contacted and East-End Life and other local media, joined the campaign, I am sure that a substantial increase in the percentage of local white pupils could be achieved. It is nearly July but we could still make an impact on the next academic year. If we can do here it then we can do it anywhere.

A local support group could also be created. I know of quite a few people who would be happy to help.


Yours


R Brown

Matthew said...

It's an error. There are 234,000, of which 33,000 are on FSM (the 'working class' in Laban/Telegraph terminology). So 200,000 non-FSM (middle class?). Which means doing your correct maths sums, you get 77% 'white british' (81% white total). The reason that term is used is distinguish from non-white British people, presumably?

JuliaM said...

"* you wait. Time passes. Thorin sits down and starts singing about gold.*"

Ahh, early 'PC' games on the ZX Spectrum. There's a blast from the past.. :)

Sgt Troy said...

"What I hadn't prepared for was the sense of loss and grief. Bob Bailey, who leads the BNP opposition on Barking council, outlined his career: son of a steelworker in Scunthorpe, 12 years in the marines, and now employed by "the security industry". The steelworks had sacked his dad, who never worked again, and now faced an uncertain future under Indian ownership. "We don't make anything any more, we don't own anything any more. It's an absolute disgrace. The country's just knackered. People have given up hope. They don't believe in anything, not in themselves, not in their neighbourhoods, not in their history. "

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/nov/21/ian-jack-nick-griffin-bnp

Thick guardianista journo "suprised" at our grief.

"The BNP fright has changed all that. Hodge has moved the centre of her operations to the town, knocked on doors and recruited 150 members, many non-white. In her office I met young men and women from, or with parents from, Nigeria, Pakistan and the Caribbean...."

Zanu recruiting a new militia.

Where are we supposed to go? The North Sea?

Sgt Troy said...

"fascist" anti-fascists

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1229643/This-isnt-Britain-fought-say-unknown-warriors-WWII.html

The left version really is a crock of shit

Matthew said...

And a nice touch of anti-semitism. Here's a suggestion - call it common sense really - do you think it's possible Mr Bailey's labour market problems are not entirely unrelated to his hating the jews, etc etc? I can see how it would make him rather picky about where he's willing to work.

Sgt Troy said...

"And a nice touch of anti-semitism. Here's a suggestion - call it common sense really - do you think it's possible Mr Bailey's labour market problems are not entirely unrelated to his hating the jews, etc etc? I can see how it would make him rather picky about where he's willing to work."

Bailey's "labour market problems" are those of the indigenous working classes, and indeed those of the fifties and sixties Commonwealth immigrants - that is the wholesale destruction of British industry;the means of existence of the people of this country. It is crass to pretend otherwise. I hope that you are not saying that Jewish people were disproportionately involved in this wanton, greed-fest destruction.

Sgt Troy said...

When Bailey says that Hodge is a foreigner that can't be assumed to be an anti-semitic comment - she was I think born in Egypt of German Jewish parents.

In a sense she is a foreigner. An indigenous ethnicity is a vital component of identity for all the civic element is accepted.

But to go along with regime diktat; and these Neatherising bastards, have of course strewn passports around like confetti with apparent malignant intent, is to acquiese in one's own ethnic cleansing. These are difficult and complex issues - and of course it is a terrible mess, making it all the more toxic.

Intent and deeds are important here. I don't regard "I hate the White Man" Yazza as British. Nor that cretin Peter Hain come to that.

Why should I accept that people who by malign design, stupidity and/or mental retardation want to wreck my country and replace its people are fellow countrymen?

JuliaM said...

"Zanu recruiting a new militia."

Oh, it's not confined to Labour, by any means.

Working Class Geezer said...

Matthew:

So the BBC were factually incorrect when the story stated "...There are almost 200,000 white British boys, of whom 31,237 (16%) were from homes poor enough to qualify them for free school meals...".

Never trust a BBC article when you read one!

Mark said...

'Ah, the Telegraph. The 'working class' = 'free school meals'.

35 years ago the Telegraph journalist and Thatcher speechwriter Alfred Sherman coined the term 'welfariat'. However when he used the term it wasn't a synonym for 'working class', as a sizeable 'respectable working class' still existed then.

In 2009 however it appears that Telegraph journalists can make the assumption that working class = welfare recipient, and noone, least of all 'left wing' bloggers, bat an eyelid at the assumption !

Anonymous said...

Fewer than half of white British boys from the poorest homes started secondary education with a decent grounding in the basics last summer, it was disclosed. Only 48 per cent of 11-year-olds eligible for free school lunches reached the standard expected of their age group

The figures in the article say that 30,000(ish) out of 200,000(ish) of white British boys get FSM. So thats roughly 15% of white British boys, of whom 48% make the agreed grade.

This group is then compared to Black Caribbean boys on FSM and a whopping 51% of them make the agreed grade. Actually 48 vs 51 is not an earth shattering gap is it. But it flies in the face of everything we know (and left/liberals deny) about IQ and race.

So, whats the missing piece of the puzzle, what arent they telling us?

Well...

They dont tell us the proportion of Black Caribbean boys eligible for FSM! You know what, I bet its quite a bit higher than that for whites

Lets say, purely for arguments sake, that 30% of Black Caribbean boys qualify for FSM. In that case the Mail is comparing 30% of them to 15% of whites. Suddenly that 48 vs 51% isnt saying the same thing at all.

Just to make it clear, lets push one metric to the extreme. If all black Caribbean boys qualified for FSM we could then see the value of that 48 vs 51% comparison.

So, in conclusion, this article is worthless if we dont know the relative numbers regarding black Caribbean boys and FSM - and all the other groups as well.

Anyone know where we can see the actual figures other than the Mail's *ahem* questionable reporting?

Anonymous said...

Sorry I thought it was the Daily Mail, not the Telegraph. However both reported it with exact same omissions. I wonder what that tells us?

Sgt Troy said...

"It is the psychology behind the triumphalism in the damage they have caused, that interests me. I have met the same style displayed by Germans of a certain age, in South America; and I have met the same style in South Africa displayed by extreme nationalists. They have the same dishonest methods of debate, specifically designed to put the opponent on the defensive; the personal attacks in terms of "the green ink brigade" or of the "little Englander" variety. Anybody who does not agree with them is a BNP supporter or a racist. But it acknowledges that they understand the fundamental weakness and wrongness of their position. The Mythical Golden Age scenario is a case in point. I was there; our society was not perfect by any means, but in comparison to the violent and dysfunctional chaos that has been brought about by the activities of the liberal elites and their enforcers, it was a heaven of tolerance. This society was no accident; it was brought about after a 100 years of social reform by the Victorians and Edwardians. And our murderous and vice ridden society is no accident either; it was brought about by agents of a force bent on our destruction. Our unwritten constitution worked very well until recently, but it afforded us no protection from an internal enemy, not based on Plato?s Will to Good, but based on Nietzsche?s Will to Power. And God help us, we let it happen. What has been done is wrong in Christian terms, in philosophical terms, in human terms and in terms of self interest. Normal human relations are rooted in mutual respect not in the hatreds of domination by intolerance."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/nov/21/ian-jack-nick-griffin-bnp

Excellent post by "hogswatch" here. That gibbering member of the guardianista commentariat Dave Hill is always sneering about Morris dancing. They really are as sick as xxxx. I guess the commies in the new universities did their work only too well

AD627 said...

Anonymous 3.46: your interpretation is flawed. The government's figures DO show that poor (FSM) white boys get worse results than poor (FSM) black boys:

"48.0 percent of ‘White British’ boys eligible for free school meals achieved the expected
level in both English and mathematics

51.6 percent of ‘Black’ boys eligible for free school meals achieved the expected level in
English and mathematics"


http://www.dcsf.gov.uk/rsgateway/DB/SFR/s000889/SFR312009KS2AttainmentbyPupilCharacteristics.pdf

(page 4)

Matthew said...

That't not anonymous's point, however. What he/she/it is saying is that one also needs to look at the sample sizes.

So in this case only 14% of 'white british' boys are on FSM, whereas 27% of 'black caribbean' boys are on FSM, you are looking at a much smaller sample in the case of WB boys, and so it is more difficult to draw conclusions.

This is a bit similar to the old puzzle that Cricketer 1 can have a higher batting average than Cricketer 2 against Australia, India, New Zealand, the West Indies, Pakistan and indeed every test playing team, but a lower batting average in test cricket overall.

I think his/her/its point in raising this is to say that this still allows for white racial supremacy, but it might not be. I can see other reasons.

Anonymous said...

"I think his/her/its point in raising this is to say that this still allows for white racial supremacy, but it might not be. I can see other reasons."

Well I can see that if we had the FULL figures we would see that these immigrants which are so key to our economy are [1] not in employment [2] are raising children that are likely to not be in employment.

I would also point out that use of the SATs figures is not a good indicator of educational achievement since children having "special educational needs" are not included in the figures and this means children that don't speak english as a first language of course.

Basically these figures are entirely meaningless except that they do indicate that 33% of the population will not just be "non-British" but will be non-white. Throw in the proportion of the population that are white but not British and I expect the next generation will be less than 50% of full "British" descent.

80% of those will vote Labour (at least until something more attuned to their particular culture comes along...)

No big surprise that the Tories are now dancing to the same multi-culti tune whilst trying to keep the white voters on-side.

I see the white vote losing faith in the Tories/Labour and splitting across extreme nationalist parties leaving the non-whites to continue electing Labour governments. Then the whole thing will go "bang" taking democracy with it, just like in Germany in the 20's and 30's.

It's going to get messy, and much faster than I ever imagined.

Weekend Yachtsman said...

"The Left are in uproar about these figures"

Why?

It's their system. They wanted a totally centralised bureacratically-run school system managed by LEA's and heavily influenced by the Teachers' unions. They wanted all-must-have-prizes. They insisted that political correctness must trump practically everything. They insist the nobody must be punished or excluded no matter how disruptive their behaviour. They fought tooth and nail for whole-word reading, non-rigorous maths, science that's just a PC joke, and the rest of it. They have devalued and dumbed-down the school exam system every single year for as long as anyone can remember.

They've got every single thing they asked for, and now, when the results are clear, and getting clearer with each passing year, they are in uproar? Who else would they like to blame? Henry Kissinger?

Anonymous said...

AD627 - I dealt with your point in my original comment.

Both the articles Ive seen have the figures you mentioned, thats not the issue. The issue as Matthew reiterates, is their failure to outline the percentages of each group on FSM.


The Black boys on FSM are twice as representitive of blacks as the white boys on FSM are of whites, yet the MSM portray that as 'outperforming'!

Anonymous said...

I see the white vote losing faith in the Tories/Labour and splitting across extreme nationalist parties leaving the non-whites to continue electing Labour governments.

The problem is that any 'moderate' attempt to sort out our problems now - stopping mass immigration and starting repatriation of most non-whites are portrayed as 'extreme'.

Extreme politics - the BNP? - is proposing moderate solutions.

Unfortunately the moderates are in charge. Which means we can look forward to plenty of excitement in the future. Moderation will then be charcterised by the degree of ethnic cleansing, partition, incessant civil war that people will accept, God knows what...

Still thats what the moderates wanted, good job we dont listen to extremists eh!

Anonymous said...

Off topic a bit, but did anyone else see this comment on today's BNP CIF piece, (Priyamvada Gopal
Prey for the BNP):

GoldenTriangle

23 Nov 2009, 3:38PM

AlanBstard1

So, you believe that the ordinary people of this country deserve to suffer because of the eventual outcomes of choices and decisions that they did not make, had absolutely no say in and hold no responsibility for.

It's not so much "deserve" to "suffer" as mass immigration and multiculturalism is a perfect (and only) mechanism to return the resources plundered over the last 500 years.

Once a critical mass of voters has been achieved, it will be possible to return resources to Africa, South East Asia, etc., though the UK's democratic institutions.

There are good odds this can happen within the next 40 years.


Wow! Just wow!

I would have commented there but they've closed the comments.

I've said it before. These people want war.

Anonymous said...

I've said it before. These people want war.

So, it turns out that two wrongs do make a right!

Ergo morality is out the window. Ergo we can defend ourselves by any means neccessary.

One might be tempted to cry "Bring me my machine gun" (Jacob Zuma)

Anonymous said...

Ergo morality is out the window. Ergo we can defend ourselves by any means neccessary.

If I wake in the middle of the night, and find intruders in my house who want to destroy me and mine, I will not be thinking, what Jean Paul Sartre, or maybe Albert Camus do in this situation? I will be reaching for whatever weapons are available, and being prepared to fight to the death.

Incidently, I voted Lib-Dem in the last general election. However, I don't think the Lib-Dems are really mentally equipped to deal with these issues.

Anonymous said...

I don't think the Lib-Dems are really mentally equipped to deal with these issues.

Lol! Understated humour is often the best!

Mike Courtman said...

Emergency policy suggested by the University of Peking - issue each teacher with a bamboo cane, a large jar of Adderall, a politically incorrect syllabus and the services of a good psychometrician (the cane is for any boys in the class found to have an IQ over 100).