"they" being the British Government, who have a problem with people blowing up trains and aircraft.
"we" being the Union of Muslim Organisations of the UK and Ireland (UMO), who are asking for "Islamic laws to cover family affairs which would apply only to Muslims".
Ms Kelly had said she would "look sympathetically at all the suggestions" that had been made, Dr Syed Aziz Pasha, secretary general of the UMO said.
He added: "She agreed with my suggestion it should be a partnership approach."
Inayat Bunglawala, spokesman for the Muslim Council of Britain, said: "It was a very positive meeting."
The wedge is in, the first little taps have been given. We can expect plenty of bluster about democracy before the accommodations begin. After all, there is a precedent - Northern Ireland.
Mr Reid - interviewed yesterday on BBC News 24 - said it was "not the British way" to change policy under threat ...
"No government worth its salt would stay in power in my view and no government worth its salt would be supported by the British people if our foreign policy, or any other aspect of policy, was being dictated by terrorists.
"That's not the British way; it's antithetical to our very central values.
"We make decisions in this country by democracy not under the threat of terrorism."
Not the British way, eh, John ? Antithetical to our very central values, is it ? I thought our central values were tolerance and inclusion.
As Jennie Bristow says, "Britain's core national values consist of the unwillingness to promote core national values".
As an old Marxist, Dr Reid should - must - remember all that stuff about the cadre - the disproportionate impact of a small number of highly motivated and organised activists. They love death - we love life.
I see no reason why the slow surrender shouldn't go on indefinitely, accelerating as increasing numbers of natives decide that getting, f***ing and spending isn't all of life, and convert to an austere, demanding religious discipline - as organised Christianity once was. Nature abhors a spiritual vacuum.
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