The Today Programme - we don't report the news, we make it

So the BBCs apology lasted until Andrew Gilligan got out of the witness box. This morning the Today programme wheeled out Hans Blix, repeating what he's already said. This is now the main item on R4 news.

And for an unbiased look at the BBCs current position we had a studio discussion with ex-Times editor Peter Stothard and top BBC partisan (she was its social affairs correspondent for years), the Guardian's Polly Toynbee, who was allowed to both open and close the debate and was given about twice as much airtime. Ms Toynbee considered no criticism of the BBC from an ex-Murdoch employee was was valid, and slagged off all the papers except the Guardian and Indie.

This is what the BBC calls debate.

Update - as at 6.30 pm the Blix story (main item at 9.00 am) has completely vanished from the 30 minute R4 bulletin.