tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post8127661232704116770..comments2024-03-29T09:13:55.008+00:00Comments on UK Commentators: Another brilliant BBC programme - if you can get itLabanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12031578024191117985noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post-8311453895321095392007-08-19T22:22:00.000+00:002007-08-19T22:22:00.000+00:00The series was posted on usenet in the above menti...The series was posted on usenet in the above mentioned group. Laban, I have emailed you on your hotmail account offering to get you a copy.JohnMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05696206173235574775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post-19335730643954756672007-08-04T08:46:00.000+00:002007-08-04T08:46:00.000+00:00There a whole series of downloadable booklets co...There a whole series of downloadable <BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/" REL="nofollow"> booklets </A> covering this and related topics from Civitas.<BR/><BR/>For example, Charles Murray’s <A HREF="http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/cs10.pdf " REL="nofollow"> Underclass + 10</A> An excerpt beginning at page 6:<BR/><BR/>... From the mid-nineteenth century through<BR/>the first three-quarters of this century, the United<BR/>States was seen as a violent, unruly society with a lot<BR/>of personal freedom but not very civilised. During the<BR/>same period, Britain was seen, rightly, as the most<BR/>civilised country on earth. Other countries on the<BR/>continent had low crime rates, but they also had<BR/>traditions and institutions of authoritarian control.<BR/>Britain enjoyed extraordinarily low crime and<BR/>extraordinary freedom. It was a unique, magnificent<BR/>achievement, proving to the world that liberty and<BR/>safety are compatible; proving, indeed, that a genuinely<BR/>civil society is possible. No longer. Britain is<BR/>just another high-crime industrialised country.<BR/><BR/>... Another part of the answer may lie in the increased<BR/>use of prison. From 1950 until 1993, British crime<BR/>became much less risky ... Britain<BR/>might have had a low crime rate and unobtrusive<BR/>police in the first half of the century, but your<BR/>chances of getting caught if you did commit a crime<BR/>were high, and the chances of going to prison if you<BR/>were caught were high. The risk of imprisonment<BR/>began to fall starting in the mid-1950s, and, after a<BR/>few years’ lag time, crime began to rise. The risk<BR/>continued to fall and crime began to rise faster. ... Since<BR/>1993, the risk of imprisonment has been rising and<BR/>property crime has been falling. ...<BR/><BR/>... In 1900,Britain had many times the number of poor people it<BR/>has now, and a fraction of the violent crime rate. It is<BR/>not because of proletarian rage against income<BR/>inequality. The rich of 1900 had lives much more<BR/>conspicuously different from the rest of society than<BR/>the rich of 1999. On every dimension of economic and<BR/>political division, Britain and used to be a much more<BR/>riven society than it is now. It was united in one<BR/>crucial respect: a universally shared consensus of<BR/>what constituted moral standards and civilised<BR/>behaviour. And Britain used to have hardly any<BR/>crime at all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post-66531806596221927622007-08-03T12:03:00.000+00:002007-08-03T12:03:00.000+00:00It's not there Moriarty but I have made a request ...It's not there Moriarty but I have made a request so someone might post it.JohnMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05696206173235574775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post-47499375163098257472007-08-03T10:41:00.000+00:002007-08-03T10:41:00.000+00:00Does it not strike you that in view of criminals b...Does it not strike you that in view of criminals being set free before fully serving their sentence, the BBC should attack previous (Conservative) governments on this issue and miss out on previous labour ones?<BR/>The first programme lauded Dixon of Dock Green in an early era (50's) when most people did not have a TV set, and completely missed out on PC49 who was the police role model during the early 50's.<BR/>So much for the lack of bias in such programmes<BR/>Colin.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post-40646423938978135712007-08-03T09:01:00.000+00:002007-08-03T09:01:00.000+00:00Laban: if your ISP includes a usenet feed you migh...Laban: if your ISP includes a usenet feed you might be able to get the first two parts from someone at the alt.binaries.sounds.radio.BBC group.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com