tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post5015671792439842306..comments2024-03-27T21:30:35.824+00:00Comments on UK Commentators: Senior Police Officer = Senior Social WorkerLabanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12031578024191117985noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post-81266740993331109572009-10-01T16:06:13.196+00:002009-10-01T16:06:13.196+00:00So the idea is that you go on allowing them to com...So the idea is that you go on allowing them to commit multiple offences because sending them to prison might encourage them to re-offend.<br /><br />Interesting grasp of logic they have.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post-67285858573496917982009-09-29T12:47:29.367+00:002009-09-29T12:47:29.367+00:00Why on earth is Steve Harrod still a policeman of ...Why on earth is Steve Harrod still a policeman of any rank. He should be fired without any benefits at all, instead he will live the life of Reilly on his very high pension when he retires. And believe me as Superintendant or above it is HIGH.<br /><br />DerekAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post-88799756812168679702009-09-28T19:08:56.938+00:002009-09-28T19:08:56.938+00:00Has anyone just watched channel 4 news with this a...Has anyone just watched channel 4 news with this as the first item? Am I wrong are are the elite scared by the resonance of this? There should be a mob of people with fucking pitchforks after the people who allowed this to happen. Just remind me, was there any racial element to this crime? No, of course not (nothing was done). Vulnerable woman driven mad. Was the father of the child dead? In the eyes of the authorities these were nobodies. It called social appeasment. I've worked front line in a prison so I know that the biggest fear of the 'joined up' thinkers is that a feral youth will be ostracised by society because they end up as costing us a fortune in later prison fees. This woman and her daughter would cause no fuss/violence and cost little in their suffering. It's actually partially driven by money which is ironic. One small practical point. If my anonymous namesake thinks you can start hitting inner city youths with sticks at school forget it. Something smarter is needed but it takes effort and personal commitment. We need the removal of all policallly correct people from the bodies who deal with these things - like fumigation. Reverse Gramscism. Then apply 'legal harrasment' to the scum. Make their lives hell until they beg for it to stop. If they don't, lock them up. Brag about how many of them we have under lock and key. Never ever, ever vote for anyone who is progressive. Call them out to their face and be as rude as possible. Call then scum. Think of this woman and her daughter. You are their only defender.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post-81696256831475360472009-09-27T23:51:03.430+00:002009-09-27T23:51:03.430+00:00When I started high school in 1963 we children wer...When I started high school in 1963 we children were terrified of some of the staff. If the school received a complaint of misbehaviour by school pupils the head master would investigate, identify the offenders and cane them. If they continued to offend he would continue to cane them until they stopped offending. By 1964 the progressive agenda had taken hold, championed by Tony Crossland and, if my memory is correct, assisted by Shirley Williams. Within five years school discipline was destroyed and the system to control aggressive children without resorting to the law had been dismantled. This was quite a complex process involving among other factors the destruction of functioning organisations by their forced amalgamation with other organisations; but we are all now paying the price.<br />The system of exclusion or expulsion from school is not an effective deterrent at the point of application but is a blight upon the lives of those excluded/expelled. I say bring back the cane and the determination of school masters to use it when appropriate. I’m sure that its application will have damaged some children but will have saved many more. Were it used today as it was 46 years ago a mother and child would not have killed themselves to escape the brutality of children who have not learned fear or respect their elders.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post-26824720917274996042009-09-27T23:28:27.631+00:002009-09-27T23:28:27.631+00:00If the police ignore youth crime for any reason wi...If the police ignore youth crime for any reason will that not make them have better statistics. The young commit a large chunk of crime.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post-22598959133566628522009-09-27T20:50:06.574+00:002009-09-27T20:50:06.574+00:00Wasn't the interesting fact in all this, the a...Wasn't the interesting fact in all this, the admission by the police officer that if he'd known all the details of this tragic case, he could/would perhaps have bumped it up into 'hate crime' status (or whatever he called it), in which case the police would have then taken it much more seriously....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post-2471939664028752432009-09-27T16:16:33.020+00:002009-09-27T16:16:33.020+00:00Laban,
That Bromley case seems reminiscent of a F...Laban,<br /><br />That Bromley case seems reminiscent of a French 'tournante'.Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11219870920638914624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post-68199073048670982002009-09-27T13:27:31.540+00:002009-09-27T13:27:31.540+00:00Don't worry, guys. Alan Johnson is on the case...Don't worry, guys. Alan Johnson is on the case and will be enuring that the "<a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/johnson-attacks-police-over-suicide-mother-1793975.html" rel="nofollow">core Labour business of looking after communities"</a> is fully addressed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post-1082787087376763242009-09-27T09:54:42.643+00:002009-09-27T09:54:42.643+00:00"They re-offend because they are young thugs!..."They re-offend because they are young thugs!"<br /><br />It can't be said often enough too. They re-offend because they are not in prison.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post-38607502366322323512009-09-27T08:53:25.222+00:002009-09-27T08:53:25.222+00:00Kusabi
I agree.Kusabi<br /><br />I agree.Robnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post-59460116350016385732009-09-27T07:21:17.353+00:002009-09-27T07:21:17.353+00:00JuliaM - sorry but your faith in the rank and file...JuliaM - sorry but your faith in the rank and file police is misplaced. They might whinge about their hands being tied but that wouldn't stop those very same ones from arresting the likes of Ms Pilkington if she'd dared raise a hand to the thugs tormenting her. <br /><br />Seriously, do you think they would stop and think about, 'hey, these thugs have been tormenting this poor soul for months, years, and all this time my colleagues have been telling her to draw the curtains and try to ignore them. Now one of them has rushed up to me screaming and shouting that she's asaulted one of them. Hmm, maybe I shouldn't exactly go and arrest her as fast as I can',<br /><br />That sort of compassion wouldn't even cross their minds. Then afterwards they'll mouth some platitude about 'we are duty-bound to investigate all complaints and that's why we had to arrest her',<br /><br />The police are yob-assisting bastards, and the ones who say 'our hands are tied' are the biggest bastards of all, because they're blatant <b>liars</b>.The Kusabinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post-8700289357603720782009-09-27T01:04:51.438+00:002009-09-27T01:04:51.438+00:00Heres another gang rape
Last week..
Are these thi...<a href="http://news.google.co.uk/news/more?pz=1&cf=all&ned=uk&topic=n&ncl=dhwXJT1bXR_hf5MHgKEg4PzseKoEM" rel="nofollow">Heres another gang rape</a><br />Last week..<br /><br />Are these things happening more often or just more reporting?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post-89932333574812226192009-09-26T22:43:08.244+00:002009-09-26T22:43:08.244+00:00"But what do you do with so many fundamentall..."But what do you do with so many fundamentally unemployable middle class graduates? They have to so something."<br /><br />Those ditches won't dig themselves.Robnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post-78427387849508804692009-09-26T22:42:08.484+00:002009-09-26T22:42:08.484+00:00Harassed, bullied and tortured for eleven years. E...Harassed, bullied and tortured for eleven years. ELEVEN FUCKING YEARS. Can you believe that?<br /><br />Can you believe that tosser of a copper who doesn't want to send young thugs to jail "because they re-offend"? They re-offend because they are young thugs! If you had jailed these tossers then at least these poor women would have had <b>some</b> respite, even if it was a few months.<br /><br />The authorities (i.e. the police) didn't give a shit about this for ELEVEN YEARS. Tell me, why do we need more police officers? Really, why do we?<br /><br />Lazy fucking workshy cowardly socialist tossers.Robnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post-19540483436491705102009-09-26T18:08:45.228+00:002009-09-26T18:08:45.228+00:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post-19396630416442974762009-09-26T14:16:39.536+00:002009-09-26T14:16:39.536+00:00Similar incidents, with similar perps and victims,...Similar incidents, with similar perps and victims, are happening all over Europe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post-49029809395240506352009-09-26T12:25:22.160+00:002009-09-26T12:25:22.160+00:00By coincidence I was speaking to a medical student...By coincidence I was speaking to a medical student this morning.<br /><br />He explained to me that first year medicine is divided into "Strand 1" - clinical and scientific, and "Strand 2" - social and cultural.<br /><br />He said that in first year, an equal amount of time is spent on both. He and his fellow students are heartily sick of having their time wasted in this manner.<br /><br />It does however reinforce your assertion that "No matter what happens at street level, where the decisions get taken the sociology grads are totally in control".<br /><br />But what do you do with so many fundamentally unemployable middle class graduates? They have to so something.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post-51391312195195552322009-09-26T11:57:43.603+00:002009-09-26T11:57:43.603+00:00"Scum - in uniform and out."
Not all o...<i>"Scum - in uniform and out."</i> <br /><br />Not <i>all</i> of them, even at senior officer level. You only have to read a few police blogs to realise they are mostly as fed up of having their hands tied as we are...JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post-50838333161238560662009-09-26T11:08:19.190+00:002009-09-26T11:08:19.190+00:00The difficulty is maintaining a rational personal ...The difficulty is maintaining a rational personal response to this. This is the sort of injustice which causes radical revolutionalry events in a society. It may be that those of who us who feel this way -they know - are a helpless minority - I hope to God from the bottom of my being and soul that we are not. There has to be a reckoning. Scum - in uniform and out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com