tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post5050579565505774099..comments2024-03-27T21:30:35.824+00:00Comments on UK Commentators: Roses BlueLabanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12031578024191117985noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post-17436983940957909602008-02-22T23:15:00.000+00:002008-02-22T23:15:00.000+00:00John's got no kids. And he's a chap of course.It's...John's got no kids. And he's a chap of course.<BR/><BR/>It's a cliche to say he doesn't understand, but 'tis a true one. <BR/><BR/>Maybe it's a failure of empathy, but it is pretty difficult to imagine the sort of visceral, possessive love most parents have for their kids - I remember being surprised by the strength of my feelings - and the anger, shame and guilt you'd feel because you couldn't stop them being hurt by someone.Labanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12031578024191117985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post-85837413657827891722008-02-22T16:56:00.000+00:002008-02-22T16:56:00.000+00:00"...and the "administering" was to her boyfriend n...<>"...and the "administering" was to her boyfriend not to the kids."<><BR/><BR/>And, btw, is this meant to be a <I>mitigation</I>...?!JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post-24604986308869057682008-02-22T15:16:00.000+00:002008-02-22T15:16:00.000+00:00"..she's no more morally responsible for the girl'...<I>"..she's no more morally responsible for the girl's death than you would be if your teenage niece drank all your whisky while you were asleep and choked on her own puke.."</I><BR/><BR/>If my teenage niece ran away from home, and I failed to notify her parents, lied to the police as to her wherabouts, let her stay, swigged whisky like a sailor in front of her, spiked my husband's drink too, then left the bottle within her reach and went to bed, I <B>wouldn't</B> be (in any way) morally in the wrong, according to you...? And I <B>wouldn't</B> deserve the legal punishment for endangerment I'd have coming...?<BR/><BR/>I think I'm <B>very</B> glad I have my <B>own</B> moral code, and not what passes for yours...JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post-53309370458563835132008-02-22T14:43:00.000+00:002008-02-22T14:43:00.000+00:00The "abduction" was a formal charge (she didn't ab...The "abduction" was a formal charge (she didn't abduct anyone, she merely didn't send the kids home), and the "administering" was to her boyfriend not to the kids.<BR/><BR/>Yes, obviously, it's right that we have laws saying that you can't just let kids live at your house without telling their guardians, and it's right that she's been punished under these laws, even if it is bloody silly calling them 'abduction' laws. <BR/><BR/>But 2 years seems steep for that; there's no way she'd've received anything like the same punishment but for the fact that the girl died - and she's no more morally responsible for the girl's death than you would be if your teenage niece drank all your whisky while you were asleep and choked on her own puke.John Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17024263999778310292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post-73431254320071685552008-02-22T14:27:00.000+00:002008-02-22T14:27:00.000+00:00"...2 years in jail for, erm, nothing at all ..."N...<I>"...2 years in jail for, erm, nothing at all ..."</I><BR/><BR/>Nothing at all...? Did you miss this bit:<BR/><BR/><I>"Corkill, of Sudell Road, Darwen, pleaded guilty to <B>four abduction charges</B> and two of <B>administering a controlled drug</B>"</I>JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post-88149682739854588582008-02-22T14:22:00.000+00:002008-02-22T14:22:00.000+00:00This case is now over seven years old, and it may ...This case is now over seven years old, and it may intrigue you to know that Judge Openshaw is now The Honourable Mr Justice Openshaw, whist Chief Inspector Smith is now Chief Superintendent Smith.<BR/><BR/>Meanwhile, of course, Melissa is still very much dead.<BR/><BR/>Plus ca change...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post-69196149136719741362008-02-22T12:42:00.000+00:002008-02-22T12:42:00.000+00:002 years in jail for, erm, nothing at all is 'ludic...2 years in jail for, erm, nothing at all is 'ludicrously light'? What planet are you from, exactly?John Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17024263999778310292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post-92076105173871227242008-02-22T10:15:00.000+00:002008-02-22T10:15:00.000+00:00I'm quite relieved the copper didn't comment. It s...I'm quite relieved the copper didn't comment. It saved the usual guff about how it was a "tragedy" for the family and that "his thoughts are with them", etc.<BR/><BR/>Nice comment from the judge, too, "no sentence will bring her back", etc so he then imposes a ludicrously light sentence. Cynical bastard.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post-77214119551399057672008-02-22T08:17:00.000+00:002008-02-22T08:17:00.000+00:00"Chief Inspector Neil Smith, who was in court to h...<I>"Chief Inspector Neil Smith, who was in court to hear the verdict, said it was inappropriate to comment."</I><BR/><BR/>Well, at least Ken Foote (social services at Blackburn with Darwen Council) was reassuringly more 'on message':<I>"...it is always important to assess if there are <B>lessons to be learnt</B>. But early indications are that <B>all agencies</B> who had contact with Melissa and her family <B>acted appropriately and in a co-ordinated way</B>..."</I>JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.com