tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post3306873383893441463..comments2024-03-29T09:13:55.008+00:00Comments on UK Commentators: Laban's Election RoundupLabanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12031578024191117985noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post-66048200612860134372008-05-04T20:55:00.000+00:002008-05-04T20:55:00.000+00:00"in London the Greens appear to be the acceptable ...<I>"in London the Greens appear to be the acceptable left-wing alternative to Labour"</I><BR/><BR/>I reckon that it has more to do with the Lib Dem protest vote fracturing when there is a PR system.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post-80205626720053508882008-05-04T19:44:00.000+00:002008-05-04T19:44:00.000+00:00Congrats on your return to the Harry's Place blogr...Congrats on your return to the Harry's Place blogroll of honour, Laban. Times they are ap changing.No Good Boyohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05859104068516964533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post-63998066831182452732008-05-04T18:54:00.000+00:002008-05-04T18:54:00.000+00:00Incidentally I've been brooding over what to do wi...Incidentally I've been brooding over what to do with the likes of Carling<BR/><BR/>http://ukcommentators.blogspot.com/2008/04/fault-line.html<BR/><BR/>We will need legal weapons to deal with people like him. Fortunately our ancestors did in fact provide us with an awesome legal recourse. These were the Statutes of Praemunire, the first of which dates from the reign of Richard II. These were originally enacted to counter untoward Papal interference and their effect was to to make it an offence of the utmost gravity to introduce a foreign power, a state within a state, in England(later Britain). Today one could easily identity anyone assisting Islamic colonisation or EU encroachment in our land as being guilty of praemunire. The legal penalities for such an offence were fearsome, they included outlawry and forfeiture of all goods. This would be a quick and easy way for dealing with such people, proportionate to the offence. It may be thought significant that the laws of praemunire were abolished in 1967, I think it highly significant. <BR/><BR/>I was pleased to discover that Enoch Powell thought the same: “There is a name for appealing over the head of the Crown to an authority outside the realm, and that name is treason. The word may be disused, but the thing is not; and the penalties of praemunire, which those guilty of it formerly incurred, were not disproportionate to its seriousness. Speech in Lancaster (8 )Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post-28297071654292273262008-05-04T18:10:00.000+00:002008-05-04T18:10:00.000+00:00Well Mr Goldman Sachs says that the UK economy is ...Well Mr Goldman Sachs says that the UK economy is very vulnerable in the context of a de-leveraging world economy. Those of liberal economic persuasion presumably believe this is a blip, albeit a serious one. And normal, money lending, service will be resumed in a year or so.<BR/><BR/>Those of nationalist persuasion believe that something serious has gone fatally bang under the bonnet. I incline strongly to this view. And believe that this is what is going to determine political outcomes in the coming years.<BR/><BR/>"Labour" can hardly go from Globalised Gordo to "Dig for Victory" in one fell swoop! Incidentally did anyone note the "national songbook" fiasco? Gordo, presumably, had issued an edict that 30 defining national songs be collected to be sung by happy schoolchildren, building identity and so on and so forth. How you can be Globalised and have distinctive, apparently somewhat exclusive, "British" values at the same time remains as opaque as ever. Only if you have "psychological issues" I suppose, and are a schizo.<BR/><BR/>Be that as it may, it certainly is the case that Labour will be absolutely finito when sharply rising unemployment, re-possessions, spending cuts, falling pound, consequent price rises cut in. We could expect them to be out of the game for at least 10 years, hopefully.<BR/><BR/>The Tories are just the same bastards gleefully rejected in 97. Liberals, as ever, are an irrelevance.<BR/><BR/>Much of what the population has been told, particularly about the economy, is a pack of lies. The mood will turn very, very ugly. If the liberal economic component, the motor really, of liberalism blows up, then the anti-racism mantras will likely go up with them.<BR/><BR/>In this context where can the distressed indigenous working class, and indeed elements of the middle classes go, but the BNP? "hope not hate" may have little resonance, it does't really have a fat lot now. I'd have said that Griffin is just as good a communicator as the MSM party leaders - he's better than Brown obviously, he is widely read, writes well - and has ideas which may prove relevant to this unhappy juncture in the nation's history. Indeed it will be determined over the next 10 years, IMO, whether there will be anything that can meaningfully be described as a British nation(or an English one) at all in the future.<BR/><BR/>I think it is futile to believe that a credible nationalist alternative, eschewing all the hard choices and baggage, will suddently emerge out of next to nothing.<BR/><BR/>I do think that it is possible that lib-lab-con will try a thirties style National Government, but that would fall right on its arse.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post-18228101172005840822008-05-04T16:09:00.000+00:002008-05-04T16:09:00.000+00:00I'm hoping for a summer of discontent to drive the...I'm hoping for a summer of discontent to drive the final nails into the coffin and bury Labour for the next 25 years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post-23893490993889688822008-05-04T16:04:00.000+00:002008-05-04T16:04:00.000+00:00Anon @ 1.12 pm and Guardian ApostateCheck this par...Anon @ 1.12 pm and Guardian Apostate<BR/><BR/>Check this party out:<BR/><BR/>http://www.englishdemocrats.org.uk/<BR/><BR/>Their name is self-explanatory and they were my second preference choice, after the Tories. They seek to protect English identity without excluding people whose cultural ancestry lies outside the British Isles.<BR/><BR/>They also transcend class and are pro working class. Just the remedy to heal this fractured and fragmented country.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post-29537872345497295102008-05-04T15:31:00.000+00:002008-05-04T15:31:00.000+00:00"Quite right too, given that Labour hasn't been lo..."Quite right too, given that Labour hasn't been loyal to them since ... when ?" Since Ernie Bevin. Who, oddly enough, had earned a considerable respect from his political opponents. Unlike Wilson, Gaitskell,.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post-89828579084870967762008-05-04T13:58:00.000+00:002008-05-04T13:58:00.000+00:00Labour lost me several years ago so it's no surpri...Labour lost me several years ago so it's no surprise what happened last week. <BR/><BR/>With my concerns over immigration and all the issues surrounding it I kept a close eye on the BNP over the course of the campaign. Their vote may only have been half a percent up but that was in the face of an incredible, all party, 'anyone but the BNP' crusade, the usual negative press (an 8 page pull out in the Daily Mirror) and the mysterious combination of ballot box seals being broken and around 400,000 votes 'spoilt'. <BR/><BR/>I also thought along similar lines to Guessedworker when I heard Richard Barnbrook's speech (I'd read GW's post as well). If they are ever going to make a real breakthrough their approach needs a radical overhaul. A subtler. friendlier way of doing things would reap rewards. To be fair I think Nick Griffin himself has realised this and seems much more astute. As an outsider it seems to me they been in a long drawn out battle with 'the reds' and it's become a bit personal. If ever either of the anti-BNP assessments you cite were true I don't think they are anymore. At the very least the rank and file are mostly good, ordinary, people who are in despair over what's happening in their community. That's something I can empathise with completely. <BR/><BR/>The most cheering thing with the results in London was the snub given to Galloway and the far left. That, combined with the exit of Red Ken, made it a satisfying night for me. Whether there'll be much of a noticeable change for those of us concerned about immigration and the worst effects of multiculturism is an open question. Boris Johnson's election speech could easily have been penned by a Guardian leader writer.Harry Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08299538663895557942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post-14784533248803411552008-05-04T13:12:00.000+00:002008-05-04T13:12:00.000+00:00I think you will find GWs support for the BNP high...I think you will find GWs support for the BNP highly qualified.<BR/><BR/>You yourself have said that the BNP or something like it (a white party) will eventually emerge from the multicultural train wreck.<BR/><BR/>Im not sure that GW believes that the BNP is that party, not yet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com