tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post114012715070818760..comments2024-03-27T21:30:35.824+00:00Comments on UK Commentators: I'm Not Sure About the Ethics Of ThisLabanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12031578024191117985noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post-24208853771108144842022-03-02T21:36:51.211+00:002022-03-02T21:36:51.211+00:00What these two murderers did is disgusting, and th...What these two murderers did is disgusting, and them only getting 7 years of imprisonment whilst have tooken away an innocent mans life just shows how messed up the justice system is. I can't even bear to imagine the pain his family, especially his wife and daughter have and are experiencing. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post-1140427568409038032006-02-20T09:26:00.000+00:002006-02-20T09:26:00.000+00:00Yes, it is reasonable to suppose that if I batter ...Yes, it is reasonable to suppose that if I batter you over the head repeatedly with an iron bar -- which I have brought along specifically for this purpose -- there is indeed mens rea (preconceived intent) to kill. At first glance the judge appears to have misdirected him or herself, perhaps influenced by the age of the two assailants and their probable ignorance. I haven't seen the judgment, so this is speculation of course.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post-1140304125198689862006-02-18T23:08:00.000+00:002006-02-18T23:08:00.000+00:00I wonder what the sentence would be if I happened ...I wonder what the sentence would be if I happened to wallop a barrister about the head with an iron bar?<BR/>Would I get away with manslaughter or would the legal establishment press for a murder charge?<BR/>I'm confident that my actions would result in a long sentence and vilifying in the press.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post-1140193318026240612006-02-17T16:21:00.000+00:002006-02-17T16:21:00.000+00:00I would say repeatedly wacking someone over the he...I would say repeatedly wacking someone over the head with an iron bar does demonstrate intent to kill, or at least do them extremely serious long lasting damage.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post-1140167345386515682006-02-17T09:09:00.000+00:002006-02-17T09:09:00.000+00:00Because it's a pefectly valid defence to say "I hi...Because it's a pefectly valid defence to say "I hit him several times with the iron bar but I didn't mean to kill him".<BR/><BR/>Problem is, the crime of murder implies intent to kill and that must be clear intent, and that can be fiendishly difficult to prove. <BR/><BR/>It is obvious that lawyer sharks have wised up to this and now can virtually guarentee to the scum they represent that manslaughter is going to be the charge once they are coached correctly and they'll be out in less than 5.<BR/><BR/>Once the laws that separate differing cases of murder are changed (to like they are in America), this will stop, as second degree murder will have a lesser dependence on "intent to kill" and carry a much harsher sentence, although you wont get a life sentence.<BR/><BR/>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4544238.stm<BR/><BR/>Probably someone will then complain that the law change has resulted in an increase in prison numbers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5187043.post-1140130036665113082006-02-16T22:47:00.000+00:002006-02-16T22:47:00.000+00:00any idea why the assailants got manslaughter inste...any idea why the assailants got manslaughter instead of murder.<BR/><BR/>attacking somebody with a iron bar is pretty serious stuff.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com